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Passed part-I with 91%

Sridhar Raman
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Joined: Nov 30, 2001
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Hi folks!
Just came back from the test centre and am pleased to announce that I have passed the exam with 91%. Got a few things to share about the exam. Will post in detail this evening. Got to head back to work now!!!
Thanks to Javaranch-arch folks for all the useful & helpful discussions.
Bagwan Mehrat
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Joined: Jan 26, 2002
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That's great!!! All your hard studying must have really paid off. If I remember correctly, the minimum passing score is 68%.
Good luck on Part II. I personally got 79% on Part I, spent a week on Part II, and got 84% on that. So knowing you, you will spend two weeks on Part II and get 99% or something similar, and we will all be begging to know the secret to your success.
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the exam.
Ian B Anderson
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Joined: Jun 26, 2001
Posts: 275
Congratulations and great score!
Srini Admala
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Joined: Dec 04, 2001
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Great Score !!

Sridhar Raman
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Joined: Nov 30, 2001
Posts: 142
Thanks, guys. As promised, I am a listing a few things that I think will be useful to the folks who are yet to take the test. I am mentioning them only from the point of view of the test.
General stuff:
1. Buy the voucher first before you start the prep. Putting some money down always makes me act. You can always reschedule the date if you are not ready.
2. Think like an architect during the prep. Skip through the code examples and excessive details. There are many architects in IT without a programming background. Remember there is no pre-req for the test.
3. Understand how the pieces link together. Get the big picture.
4. You don't need to cram through multiple books for the same subject. Either use the Monson-Haefel book or Ed Roman.
5. As far as possible buy books written by authoritative sources. Get Eric Gamma and all for Design patterns and Booch and co for UML. This way you get to hear the original thoughts right from the horse's mouth. I saw a book called design patterns in Java by some author. In my opinion, the book sucked big time. The author was so fixated on Swing and GUI, that he painted a wrong picture on design patterns.
6. A lot of folks have good things to say about J2EE blueprints. For some reason I didn't find it useful. Again, use those resources that you are comfortable with.
Ok...about the test
1. The test focusses on high level aspects of the concepts. No details
2. Understand the intent of the patterns. Some of the questions on patterns were very good. The thing with patterns is that some of them have identical structures and very similar implementations but vary in their intents. So, know the intent very well.
3.UML was cool. Don't dig into advanced notations. You should be able to identify what type of a UML diagram it is when you see one. Focus on aspects of simple class relationships like dependency, aggregation, composition, multiplicity, etc.
4. Know applets security. I lost a couple of questions on that I think. I was never able to find a good resource on applets security and Java's policy based security for applets.
5. Protocols -> Used John's notes for JRMPO. There is a whole bunch of introductory articles in the net on SSL and HTTP. Pick one of them that the search engine throws at you. That should suffice. Details are not important. has a good one on SSL.
6. Monson-Haefel minus the details was good enuff. I didn't even look at the EJB specs.
7. Know some trends in the industry. The test required you to know something about B2B.
8. I was surprised to find some questions very similar to the ones that I had posted in my 'Mock Questions' page esp on the scenario based ones where you are required to find the best technology for a particular requirement.
9. Legacy, JRMP, I18n - > John's notes. I didn't need any additional resource besides this.
Thanks, John. Your notes are great! I found them very useful to recap the concepts before the day of the test.
10. There was one really intersting question... again a scenario based quesion. It was a very practical question where you are required to make a decision that will break the EJB model in order to satisfy a requirement. So, be prepared to look beyond the concepts
Thatz all I can think of at this point. I may have missed some resources. You got to gauge where you are at and make your own charter and gather those resources that you find good, which may contradict popular opinion.

[ March 16, 2002: Message edited by: Sridhar Raman001 ]
Win Yu
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Joined: Oct 17, 2001
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Thanks, your commemt is very useful.

Mark Spritzler

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Congrats Sridhar

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a s

Joined: Mar 14, 2002
Posts: 4
Congrats and great work !!
Can u give me a link to John's notes you mentioned ?
Atif Shah

Joined: Jan 30, 2002
Posts: 27
great man (Y) way to goooo congrats.
and thanks for info.
by the way earler you posted some monk questions where those helpful......
any more info from you would be great help .
good luck for next steps dude !!!
Burk Hufnagel
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Joined: Oct 01, 2001
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a s,
Check out our new Resource links page at there's a link on it to John's notes and lots of other Good Stuff(TM)
Originally posted by a s:
Congrats and great work !!
Can u give me a link to John's notes you mentioned ?

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a s

Joined: Mar 14, 2002
Posts: 4
thanks Burk for creating the page.
You can this link for security :
a s
Dairmon Lee
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Joined: Feb 25, 2002
Posts: 30
Dear Sridhar,
Could you be little more specific for the following point?
7. Know some trends in the industry. The test required you to know something about B2B.
what kind of questions will be asked about this concept? any resource?
Thanks in advance!
Sridhar Raman
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Know some trends in the industry. The test required you to know something about B2B.
Well, there were questions in the exam that required you to know what B2B is all about and how a B2B application is typically modelled using the Hub and Spoke model. Basic B2B stuff. One question required you to know that MSMQ is a messaging technology. General stuff like that.
I don't know of any specific resources on the subject. I bet you should be able to find plenty of them if you search the net. You might also want to check out web site. They sell popular Integration products and might have some info on the B2B architecture. Will post if I come across any info on the net.
Sridhar Raman
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Check out this site... they have some good articles on B2B...
Franky Cheung
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Joined: Mar 12, 2002
Posts: 34
Hi all,
I am studying and preparing for Part I. but i am worrying and afraid of the exam, although I have study the notes, I cannot answer the question correctly. Would anyone provide me some advice or tips on preparing the exam
Cheers Prasad

Joined: Feb 11, 2002
Posts: 23
Congrats Sreedhar..Well done..
Hope you can act as guide for people like me appearing for the exam.
How people days of preparation is required ..
What topics(like EJB) must be given priority.
Please guide me
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