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Angela Margot
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Joined: Feb 07, 2002
Posts: 80
I've been a Java developer for more years than I care to think about. My experience includes some J2EE (Javascript, Servlets, etc).
My question is this, what is the core difference between taking the Programmer followed by Developer exam or just taking the Architect series?
What books would you recommend for the Architect certification?
Thanks all!

Angela Margot <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <br />Sr. Software Engineer<br />SCJP2 SCWCD MCSD MCP
Nigel Browne
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Joined: May 15, 2001
Posts: 673
The core difference is that the scjd is pratical programming, the architect exam is a design/concept exam. I have worked for most of my time in configuration management so the developers exam was a real challenge to do so hands on programming again. The Architect exam on the other hand allows me to practice what I preach to the developers under me. Use patterns, use the best tools for the job, use the most appropriate technology e.t.c. With of course a sun twist to the way the questions are asked, but give me Solaris, and cross platform open source and I'll be happy.
Sounds great coming from someone who got his mcsd before even starting to learn Java.
Robert Wright

Joined: May 01, 2002
Posts: 19
The programmer's exam focuses on the fundamentals of the Java language. The developer's exam goes further and includes a pratical design/programming exam.
The architect test focuses on architecture and high-level design.
It depends on what kind of work you do and what kind of skills you want to gain and what kind of skills you want to certify.
I've done programmer and developer and I'm working on architect. Personally I don't see how you can do high-level design and lead a team to implement your design without understanding the low-level coding issues as well. I feel strongly that the boss needs to be able to do the jobs of those underneath him to be able to manage effectively.
Angela Margot
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Joined: Feb 07, 2002
Posts: 80
Thanks for the info.... I will probably continue on my cert path for the Programmer, Developer, then Architect. It sounds like a reasonable way to go, given the description of the exams.
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