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Requirements for taking this exam

Paul Keohan
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Joined: Mar 15, 2000
Posts: 411
Any opinions on taking this exam without doing the Developer exam first? I have the Programmer certification and 2 years work experience and would only plan on doing the Developer if it would help me significantly towards the Architect exam.
Paul
Rufus BugleWeed
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Joined: Feb 22, 2002
Posts: 1551
I would skip the developer certification.
bill lubx
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Joined: May 04, 2002
Posts: 26
If you plan to go through SCEA, I bet you might go through �petStore�, since petstore has 14273 line of codes for you to study to improve your Developer skills, in this case you can improve both the developer skills and architect design as once. plus the design pattern in arch will enhance your developer skills. If I have two year experience in java, I would try to give a shot on SCEA.
/bill


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Paul Keohan
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Joined: Mar 15, 2000
Posts: 411
Thanks for your responses. Following up on that, is there any recommended book(s) that are worth getting?
Paul
Steven Wong
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Joined: Mar 07, 2002
Posts: 295
Hi,
I'm also thinking of doing SCJA instead of SCJD.
I'm involved with J2EE for the past 1.5 years.
However, what implications will it be or is there any disadvantages if I skip SCJD?


best regards,<br />Steven<br />SCJP, SCEA
SJ Adnams
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Joined: Sep 28, 2001
Posts: 925
The classic response is:
I have 2 years experience developing real world java applications why the hell do I need a piece of paper telling you that I've built another one?

my 2c
mike richards
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Joined: Jan 29, 2003
Posts: 8
does sun allow you to go straight to the SCEA without any other certifications
noel angel
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Joined: Oct 27, 2002
Posts: 75
Hi paul,
The SCEA requires no prior certifications. I can attest to that since I was mistakingly told that the SCJP was required and it is not. The Developer cert is a ggod cert if you need to prove to a prospective employer that you can code a Java project but it will not help you with the SCEA. The first part of the SCEA is a multiple choice question exam. This can be adequately prepared for by using Cades, and Allan/Bamabera's study guides for the SCEA. Practice exams abound and check out the Yahoo group dedicated to the cert. ( I don't know the URL off the top of my head but it is listed in this group's mail somewhere )
I have taken part 1 and the questions on the real exam give you the number of correct answers expected. The mock exams don't. The mock exams are generally harder than the real thing. Scenario questions (word problems) are the most frequent question on the exam. many of the mocks don't have any of these. See the SCEA resource page in this news group and then load Jarowski's test to see a true sampling of questions. But that mock doesn't give the number of expected answers either which makes it harder! If you can get above 80% on Jaworski's mock test without help you can pass the real thing.
Part 2 requires more patterns, UML, and OO design. If you are experienced in this already go for it. Developing code will not help here since the second part of the SCEA is a high level software architecture design....no coding expected.
Noel
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