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Passed Part I, II, and III

Zero Me

Joined: Aug 29, 2002
Posts: 1
Part I - 87
Part II, III - 71 (really? )
This score must be a joke. I used Mark Cade's book as a guide after having over-architected the assignment twice... Well, maybe that's what Sun thinks of Cade I believe his approach to a high-level architecture is sound (at least for J2EE-based systems) and feel fortunate to having learned a little bit from him.I have lots of experience with UML and patterns and found it disturbing getting 71 in part II... I felt particularly aggravated by the level of UML and Pattern related questions in Part I. That was a joke indeed! And it cost $150!
After spending more time than I should with this certification, I would say experience is what really counts, and I have 16+ years of this precious asset. The best J2EE architects I know aren't certified at all! I would rather have them in a project than any Sun certified J2EE architect. Anyway, this days, one more piece of wall paper won't hurt
I wish you all the best of luck. Hope you all get certified soon!
Byron Estes
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Joined: Feb 21, 2002
Posts: 313
I'm still working on Part II right now, but I'm hoping to finish it this weekend. Harder to find the time while working on a billable project full time.
I agree with you completely on the issue of experience. I've been at it almost as long as you have (about 15 years total, around 5 with Java) and I think it also helps to have been through different waves of languages, platforms and methodologies.
I've never been a person who puts much stock in a certification. I initially pursued this one only because it ended up on my supervisors list of objectives for me this year. I think, however, that it's been and continues to be a good experience. It's focused me more tightly on some of the topics and driven me to research some things more deeply. This has increased the level of my understanding, impacts my ability to apply them more effectively.
Even though I've worked on OO projects for years, UML has never be widely used by any of the companies for which I've worked. This certification has opened my eyes to it's benefits and will forever change the way I work and will likely change the way my co-workers function...if I have anything to say about it.

Byron Estes<br />Sun Certified Enterprise Architect<br />Senior Consulant<br />Blackwell Consulting Services<br />Chicago, IL<br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>
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