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Passed Part 1 -- SCEA for J2EE

Seid Myadiyev
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Posts: 196
Friends,
I passed SCEA for J2EE Part 1 with 75%!
To tell you frankly I was quite surprised to see my score. When we received the Score Report, my wife was very happy and was congratulating me but I was feeling a little disappointed with my result. Nothing was wrong with the exam, of course; it’s just that before the exam I felt like I was very well prepared and ready to score not less than 90%. Later I became happier because the knowledge and insight I gained in the process of preparation proved to be very valuable and because SCEA Part 1 was already behind me. Also later I felt I new which questions I answered wrong.
I gave 3 months to my preparation.
I used the following books:
1. Enterprise JavaBeans (by Richard Monson-Haefel)
2. Applied Java Patterns (by Stephen A. Stelting, Olav Maassen)
3. SCEA for J2EE Study Guide (by Mark Cade)
4. UML Distilled (by Martin Fowler)
Here is my Examination Score Report:
Concepts_________________100%
Common Architectures_____16%
Legacy Connectivity______40%
EJB______________________77%
EJB container Model______100%
Protocols________________100%
Applicability of J2EE____66%
Design Patterns__________100%
Messaging________________100%
Internationalization_____100%
Security_________________50%
I studied all books in great detail because my goal was really to gain knowledge.
I also printed 4 sets of most popular Exam Notes and articles to refer to in addition to the ones I have compiles myself. And I also purchased SCEA@Whiz to get a good practice answering exam questions.
While practicing with SCEA@Whiz I never scored less than 81% in any of the 6 tests it had. To me, quite a few actual SCEA exam questions seemed to be easier than Whiz tests but at the same time quite vague. Almost all questions that I got wrong were related to Legacy Systems whatever subsection they formally belong to -- Legacy Connectivity, Common Architectures, EJB or J2EE Applicability. Another question that I got wrong asked to define and describe in details “service-to-service”.
I decided not to do Part 2 at this time, but instead wait till the new version of J2EE Architect exam is released to do SCEA Part 2 and 3 in the new light. In the meantime I will pursue my J2EE Web Component Developer and J2SE Developer certification tracks.
I would like to suggest to everyone to go ahead to pursue SCEA for J2EE! I learnt many new things and feel much more confident.
If you have any questions please let me know – I am very much willing to answer.
Thanks,
Seid


Seid Myadiyev<br />SCJP, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA-Part 1
Chris Mathews
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Posted by Seid Myadiyev:
I decided not to do Part 2 at this time, but instead wait till the new version of J2EE Architect exam is released to do SCEA Part 2 and 3 in the new light.

I doubt you will be able to mix and match pieces of the SCEA between versions. Most likely you will need to take Part I again if you want to do the assignment from the new version.
If you completely finish the current version of the SCEA, Sun has said a multiple choice upgrade exam will be available.
BTW, congratulations on passing Part I.
Seid Myadiyev
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Posts: 196
Thanks Chris!
That’s what I also thought before but when I wrote to Sun this is what they replied:
> (Question concerning Architect Exam for versions J2EE 1.2 vs. J2EE latest version)
> If I take Part 1 of the current version (EJB 1.1) of the exam I will I be allowed to proceed with the updated version later and take Part 2 and Part 3 of the newest version (EJB 2.0 or later) of the exam? Or will I have to re-take Part 1 for the newest version?
>
> Also, if you know, to what version of J2EE will the exam be updated and when?
>
> Thank you very much for your clarification!
> Seid
Hello,
Part I of the exam will suffice any version of part II and III. We do not have a release date at this time for an updated version.
Regards,
Monica Green
> From: SESWebLive@Sun.COM
> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 04:51:59 -0600 (MDT)
> Date-warning: Date header was inserted by mail.sun.net
> Subject: SESWEB - Questions regarding certification exams.
> To: michael.nolan@central.sun.com, who2contact@central.sun.com,
Julie.Ceranski@central.sun.com, greg.alexander@central.sun.com
Chris Mathews
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Joined: Jul 18, 2001
Posts: 2712
I stand corrected. I am a bit surprised Sun doesn't have a problem with that.
Good luck on Part II... regardless of what version you decide to take.
Seid Myadiyev
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Posts: 196
Thanks again!
AJAY RANA
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Joined: May 30, 2002
Posts: 75
Congrats Seid !
and thanks for clearing the confusion about version. I have also just cleared SCWCD and was planning SCEA but was undecided about this version problem.
Congrats and Thanks Again !
Ajay Rana
[ October 29, 2002: Message edited by: AJAY RANA ]
Edward Farrow
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Joined: Apr 02, 2002
Posts: 32
Seid, you had all the right material for the exam. do you have any real work experience with j2ee?
Seid Myadiyev
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Posts: 196
Ajay: Thanks very much!
Edward: Before I worked more with J2SE but now I work more with J2EE on Oracle9i. My projects are J2EE distributed applications with JSP, Servlets, EJBs and Oracle as a back-end database.
Thanks,
Seid Myadiyev
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Posts: 196
Edward, a little clarification to my previous reply:
Before the exam (beginning of November) I did not have J2EE experience. I started from the very beginning -- downloaded and printed two Sun's books: “J2EE Tutorial” and “J2EE BluePrints” and studied them. Then I went to other books that I mentioned in the first post.
After exam I got J2EE and Oracle projects.
jusheng jiang
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Joined: May 20, 2002
Posts: 9
Seid,
Where can I find these books? I'm in China
Seid Myadiyev
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Posts: 196
Hi Jiang,
Sun's books you can download from:
J2EE BluePrints: http://java.sun.com/blueprints/guidelines/index.html
J2EE Tutorial: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/download.html#tutorial
These 4 books I bought from www.amazon.com:
1. Enterprise JavaBeans (by Richard Monson-Haefel)
2. Applied Java Patterns (by Stephen A. Stelting, Olav Maassen)
3. SCEA for J2EE Study Guide (by Mark Cade)
4. UML Distilled (by Martin Fowler)
jusheng jiang
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Joined: May 20, 2002
Posts: 9
Thanks! Seid,
but I means where can download
electronic versions of these books.
Jacques Rodes
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Joined: Nov 20, 2001
Posts: 29
Hey congrats man! Great job done. What next?
Best wishes
JR
Seid Myadiyev
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Posts: 196
Thanks Jacques!
Your score was an inspiration to me.
Next is SCWCD and Java Developer, till new SCEA is available!
What's next for you?
Jacques Rodes
Greenhorn

Joined: Nov 20, 2001
Posts: 29
Thanks Seid for your remarks. I am going for Part II. Also thinking of Test 486 IBM UML OOAD as it will help me strengthen by designing knowledge.
Best wishes
JR
Chris Mathews
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Joined: Jul 18, 2001
Posts: 2712
Originally posted by jiang jusheng:
Thanks! Seid,
but I means where can download
electronic versions of these books.

Not all books have electronic versions that are freely downloadable (at least not legally). You will probably be interested in Mastering EJB which is available in pdf format for free at TheServerSide. This book is basically interchangeable with Enterprise JavaBeans by Richard Monson-Haefel for SCEA purposes.
Sanjay Raghavan
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Joined: May 14, 2002
Posts: 148
Seid,
Congrats and best luck with Part 2.


Sanjay Raghavan<br />SCJP2, SCEA-J2EE<br />Moderator - <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scea_prep" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">SCEA PREP</a><br />Co-Author - <a href="http://www.whizlabs.com/scea/scea.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">SCEA@Whiz</a><br /><i>Where did you sip your Java Today?</i>
jkumar kannan
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Joined: Sep 24, 2002
Posts: 2
Congrats Seid.. I have a question for you. I have 6 years experience programming in various languages like C, C++, Java, Perl, Lotus Domino and VB. I recently passed SCJP2 with 88%. Can I clear SCEA Part 1 in the next 4 - 6 months. What is your advise ?
Originally posted by Seid Myadiyev:
Friends,
I passed SCEA for J2EE Part 1 with 75%!
To tell you frankly I was quite surprised to see my score. When we received the Score Report, my wife was very happy and was congratulating me but I was feeling a little disappointed with my result. Nothing was wrong with the exam, of course; it’s just that before the exam I felt like I was very well prepared and ready to score not less than 90%. Later I became happier because the knowledge and insight I gained in the process of preparation proved to be very valuable and because SCEA Part 1 was already behind me. Also later I felt I new which questions I answered wrong.
I gave 3 months to my preparation.
I used the following books:
1. Enterprise JavaBeans (by Richard Monson-Haefel)
2. Applied Java Patterns (by Stephen A. Stelting, Olav Maassen)
3. SCEA for J2EE Study Guide (by Mark Cade)
4. UML Distilled (by Martin Fowler)
Here is my Examination Score Report:
Concepts_________________100%
Common Architectures_____16%
Legacy Connectivity______40%
EJB______________________77%
EJB container Model______100%
Protocols________________100%
Applicability of J2EE____66%
Design Patterns__________100%
Messaging________________100%
Internationalization_____100%
Security_________________50%
I studied all books in great detail because my goal was really to gain knowledge.
I also printed 4 sets of most popular Exam Notes and articles to refer to in addition to the ones I have compiles myself. And I also purchased SCEA@Whiz to get a good practice answering exam questions.
While practicing with SCEA@Whiz I never scored less than 81% in any of the 6 tests it had. To me, quite a few actual SCEA exam questions seemed to be easier than Whiz tests but at the same time quite vague. Almost all questions that I got wrong were related to Legacy Systems whatever subsection they formally belong to -- Legacy Connectivity, Common Architectures, EJB or J2EE Applicability. Another question that I got wrong asked to define and describe in details “service-to-service”.
I decided not to do Part 2 at this time, but instead wait till the new version of J2EE Architect exam is released to do SCEA Part 2 and 3 in the new light. In the meantime I will pursue my J2EE Web Component Developer and J2SE Developer certification tracks.
I would like to suggest to everyone to go ahead to pursue SCEA for J2EE! I learnt many new things and feel much more confident.
If you have any questions please let me know – I am very much willing to answer.
Thanks,
Seid
Leyong
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Joined: Sep 09, 2002
Posts: 7
Congratulation Seid!
I used the following books:
1. Enterprise JavaBeans (by Richard Monson-Haefel)
2. Applied Java Patterns (by Stephen A. Stelting, Olav Maassen)
3. SCEA for J2EE Study Guide (by Mark Cade)
4. UML Distilled (by Martin Fowler)

Which edition for Monson-Haefel and Martin's book ?
Thanks!


Leyong T
Seid Myadiyev
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Posts: 196
Congrats Seid.. I have a question for you. I have 6 years experience programming in various languages like C, C++, Java, Perl, Lotus Domino and VB. I recently passed SCJP2 with 88%. Can I clear SCEA Part 1 in the next 4 - 6 months. What is your advise ?

Hi jkumar,
I am sorry for not being able to reply earlier.
In my opinion, I do not think that you need any practical experience with J2EE to pass SCEA Part 1. It would be helpful to have some Architect and Developer experience in general (not specifically with Java or J2EE) but even that is not a precondition.
I decided to take SCEA exam because did not know what is the role and responsibilities of the Software Architect are and I wanted to find out for myself, what J2EE Architect is concerned with, to make a decision as to whether this is what (or not) I want to be. Before I started preparing for SCEA exam I did not have any knowledge of any of the J2EE Technologies! I primary goal was to lean about J2EE and Architect for J2EE and I decided that studying for SCEA exam will help not only gain this knowledge but also guide me through this process.
So, since you asked for my advice – I would suggest -- go ahead, study and pass SCEA exam. From what I read in your post -- you have even broader experience than I do, so it might be even easier for you to achieve knowledge on the SCEA exam objectives. I tried to study from 8 PM to 12 AM everyday but that did not always work. So if you find time to sit down and concentrate on what you are reading for about 3-4 hours per day then you will need not more that 3 to 4 months! Also get good practice answering mock questions!
I hope this answers your question!
Good Luck!
Seid Myadiyev
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Posts: 196
Which edition for Monson-Haefel and Martin's book ?

Hello Leyong,
UML Distilled: A Brief Guide to the Standard Object Modeling Language (2nd Edition)
by Martin Fowler, Kendall Scott
URL: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/020165783X/qid=1036306155/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-7058667-3479158
Enterprise JavaBeans (3rd Edition)
by Richard Monson-Haefel
URL: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596002262/qid=1036306239/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-7058667-3479158
In Enterprise JavaBeans (3rd Edition) for SCEA exam you will need only those chapters that cover EJB 1.1.
I also printed EJB 1.1 Spex and studied them in great detail but I do not think that it is a "requirement" to pass SCEA.
Also remember that SCEA will be updated to a new version of J2EE in the beginning of 2003 so depending on when you will be taking the exam you will need to choose the right version of EJB to study!
 
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