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Roger Zacharias
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Joined: Jul 01, 2003
Posts: 49
Hi folks,
finally I got it!
I have worked for the exam since last April. I�m so happy I still can�t believe it.
Now my signature will be changed from "SCEA-to-be" to "SCEA".
And the score is also pretty cool (see below).
Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for Java 2 Platform Enterprise Edition Technology Part II (310-061)
Date Taken: 2004-02-01 17:18:31.483
Grade: P
Score: 98
Comment: This report shows the total points that could have been awarded in each section and the actual amount of points you were awarded. This information is provided in order to give you feedback on your relative strengths on a section basis. The maximum number of points you could have received is 100, minimum to pass is 70. Class Diagram (44 maximum) .......................... 44 Component Diagram (44 maximum) ...................... 44 Sequence/Colloboration Diagrams (12 maximum) ........ 10

Tips for the "SCEAs-to-be":
- keep it very clean
- use the correct J2EE components and don�t loose yourself in details
- use J2EE patterns
- work hard, very hard!!!
If you have any further questions - ask them! :-)
Best wishes for your further certification path.
Roger

SCEA (aaah, this looks good )
daniel guo
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Joined: Jan 08, 2004
Posts: 7
congratulations!
Dhiren Joshi
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Joined: Dec 09, 2003
Posts: 463
Hi Roger ,
Congratulations for a superb score. I can see how much you have desired it from you post and good for you that you got what you put in. I am treading equally with as much zeal to get the coveted title of SCEA and I am also waiting for the time when I will proclaim that I am an SCEA .
Can you guide me with the ref books you studied ..
Can you please help me with component diagrams. What technique /books /reference did u use for them. What did you take as a refrence study for it .Cade's component as well as sequence diagram hardly seem complete and accurate to my understanding and I am not feeling comfortable implementing those in the assignment.

Thanks
Dhiren
Nishant Anshul
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Joined: Sep 10, 2003
Posts: 72
well done Roger !! congrats


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Andrew Monkhouse
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Congratulations Roger


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Roger Zacharias
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Joined: Jul 01, 2003
Posts: 49
Hi Dhiren,
> Can you guide me with the ref books you studied ..
I read Cade�s and Paul Allen�s book and extensively used the internet and this forum.
> Can you please help me with component diagrams. What
> technique /books /reference did u use for them. What did you take as a
> refrence study for it .Cade's component as well as sequence diagram
> hardly seem complete and accurate to my understanding and I am not
> feeling comfortable implementing those in the assignment.
Don�t use to much components, I had about 30. Don�t draw every JSP, and use subsystems and packages for the tiers in the component diagram. For the sequence diagrams: document only the interactions between the components in your component diagram and write the use case description to the left of the diagram.

Good luck
Roger
Roger Zacharias
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Joined: Jul 01, 2003
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Ooops, wrong signature
Dushy Inguva
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Joined: Jun 24, 2003
Posts: 264
Hi Roger,
Congrats. Great Job.
Dushy


SJCP, SCBCD, SJCD, SCDJWS, SCEA (Part I)
Bharat Ruparel
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Joined: Jul 30, 2003
Posts: 493
Hello Roger,
Congratulations! Great score!!
Which tool did you use to draw and document your UML diagrams? If you used Poseidon, which edition?
Thanks.
Bharat


SCJP,SCJD,SCWCD,SCBCD,SCDJWS,SCEA
Bharat Ruparel
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Joined: Jul 30, 2003
Posts: 493
Hello Roger,
I have more follow-up questions if you don't mind:
Your grade shows that the distribution is 44% for the Class diagrams, 44% for the Component Diagram, and 12% for the Sequence/Collaboration diagrams.
1. Is this the standard distribution for the part II?
2. What kinds of questions can one expect on the part III based on part II?
3. How many of each diagram types did you submit?
4. Did you submit any use-cases? Even though the grade distribution doesn't show any marks for it?
5. When you say use patterns: do you mean the patterns by GOF as on part I of the exam? or do you mean the J2EE design patterns as in the texts by Deepak Alur, John Krupi et. el? Any other patterns text that you referred to? To what an extent did you show the patterns if you can provide any guidelines on this I will appreciate it.
6. Finally, you can ignore my first message and answer that question here. What tool did you use for the creating the diagrams? If it was Poseidon then did you use the community edition of a higher edition which costs money?
Sorry to bombard you with these questions, but I am starting to work on the SCEA cert and any good guidance will enhance the effectiveness of my preparation.
Thanks and regards.
Bharat
Ananth Devadoss
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Joined: Aug 04, 2003
Posts: 12
Hey Roger,
Congratulations from my part. Narrow miss to hit 100.
I got a question from your part3 experience.
I am going to take the part-3 next week.
What kind of questions being asked in part3?
How many of them and how much time does it take to complete the exam.
Any advise Roger?
Congrats again.
Roger Zacharias
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Joined: Jul 01, 2003
Posts: 49
Hi Bharat,
I used Poseidon (always the newest version because of Java WebStart ;-) ) for the class diagram and Together 6 for sequence and component diagram.
Good luck
Roger
Roger Zacharias
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Joined: Jul 01, 2003
Posts: 49
Hi Bharat,
>I have more follow-up questions if you don't mind:
I don�t mind
>1. Is this the standard distribution for the part II?
Yes, this is the standard distribution, but it doesn�t mean that these parts alone are enough. I additionally provided a list of assumptions and a paper of architectural and high-level design decisions (e.g. concerning security or scalability)
>2. What kinds of questions can one expect on the part III based on part >II?
Questions about what I call the "enterprise-criterias" or the "-ilities", e.g. Scalability, Availability, etc.
> 3. How many of each diagram types did you submit?
1 component, 1 class, and for every! use case 2 sequence diagrams - one technology independent and one J2EE specific.

>4. Did you submit any use-cases? Even though the grade distribution >doesn't show any marks for it?
No.
>5. When you say use patterns: do you mean the patterns by GOF as on part >I of the exam? or do you mean the J2EE design patterns as in the texts by >Deepak Alur, John Krupi et. el? Any other patterns text that you referred >to? To what an extent did you show the patterns if you can provide any >guidelines on this I will appreciate it.
I did�t use GoF patterns, only the ones for J2EE. I declared them as known and used them in the component diagram and put an appropriate note on the diagram. And I used the newest J2EE patterns from the new book.
>6. Finally, you can ignore my first message and answer that question >here. What tool did you use for the creating the diagrams? If it was >Poseidon then did you use the community edition of a higher edition which >costs money?
Too late
>Sorry to bombard you with these questions, but I am starting to work on >the SCEA cert and any good guidance will enhance the effectiveness of my >preparation.
No prob, I was also very happy for guidance of the other guys (and girls) in this forum
Good luck
Roger
Roger Zacharias
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Joined: Jul 01, 2003
Posts: 49
Hi Ananth,
>What kind of questions being asked in part3?
>How many of them and how much time does it take to complete the exam.
For the kind of question see my post above.
I think there are always 4 questions?!
And you have 90 minutes for completion.
It is like writing a short essay in school
Good luck for you
Roger
Cindy Li
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Joined: Jan 29, 2003
Posts: 18
What are the design patterns you used in the project?
Thanks,
Li Xin
Roger Zacharias
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Joined: Jul 01, 2003
Posts: 49
Hi Li,
sorry, but I think to answer this question would not be allowed by the certification rules.
But you are on the good side if you use the "default ones" that should be used in every J2EE application and are also supported by a lot of tools.
Good luck
Roger
Vishwa Kumba
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Joined: Aug 27, 2003
Posts: 1064
Congratulations Roger
Your answers to Bharat would be quite useful to the other SCEA aspirants...
Cheers,
Bharat Ruparel
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Joined: Jul 30, 2003
Posts: 493
Thanks Roger. I appreciate it.
Regards.
Bharat
Ajith Kallambella
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Joined: Mar 17, 2000
Posts: 5782
Contratulations Roger! Great score indeed


Open Group Certified Distinguished IT Architect. Open Group Certified Master IT Architect. Sun Certified Architect (SCEA).
Cindy Li
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 29, 2003
Posts: 18
HI, Roger,
congradulation for the high scores
As you used Together 6 for sequence diagram, could you help me on this question,
How to turn off the sequence number (e.g. 1.1.1... ) which is mainly for collaboration diagram in the sequence diagram?
It looks messy when each step comes with the sequence number. I am using Together 6.1. I couldn't find any option for this in the menu.
Thanks,
Li Xin
Rajat Juneja
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 24, 2003
Posts: 14
Li,
You will find your answer here....
http://www.coderanch.com/t/151878/java-Architect-SCEA/certification/remove-message-numbering-TogetherJ-seq
Rajat


SCEA , Weblogic 7.0, SCBCD, SCWCD, SCJP1.4
Roger Zacharias
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Joined: Jul 01, 2003
Posts: 49
Hi Li,
I used the sequence numbers, but maybe I lost the two points because of them?
Good luck for you!
Roger
Purvesh Vora
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Joined: Dec 10, 2003
Posts: 47
HI, Roger,
congradulation for the Outstanding Score and for becoming SCEA

I am planning to start preparation for the SCEA-I.
I have already taken IBM OOAD & UML exam & SCJP 1.4.
Seniors, please guide me which books are useful and tips for the preparation.
Thanks & Regards,
Purvesh


Regards,<br />Purvesh<br />SCJP, SCBCD, IBM Exam #486
tomas suzuki
Greenhorn

Joined: Apr 21, 2004
Posts: 21
Hi, Roger
Great score. Hope u don't mind a few questions from another SCEA-want-to-be.
I started Part II about 3 weeks ago. As I began drawing class and sequence diagrams, a big concern I have is the size or them. So my questions are
1. What's really needed in the class diagram? Do I include classes such as BusinessDelegate, ServiceLocator, EJBs in addition to the business objects in the class diagram?
2. Speaking of business objects, since I am considering VOs and DAOs, I would for instance have an ItineraryVO and a SegmentVO, a ItineraryDAO and a SegmentDAO and they have similar hiararchical structure. It's kinda of redundent. Did u face this problem and how did u deal with it?
3. For sequence diagrams, did u include the presentation layer. I saw other top scorers talking about omiting the layer and only including the business layer. Just want to know how you went about it.
4. Component diagram - any books you found particularly useful
Sorry for the lengthy messages. Thanks for the help in advance.
-tomas


SCEA, SCJP, CPD
 
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