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passed scea, but no certification

c s ng
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Joined: Dec 16, 2003
Posts: 7
Is there anyone have same situation with me? I passed SCEA on DEC 14 2003, but I still cannot receive the certification, I am very worry about that.
Eduardo Rodrigues
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Joined: Jul 01, 2003
Posts: 199
Hi
You can request again the kit at http://www.galton.com/~sun


Eduardo Rodrigues<br />SCJP 1.4/5.0 SCWCD 1.3/1.4, SCBCD 1.3, SCMAD, SCEA<br />IBM 484 & 486<br />Belo Horizonte<br />Minas Gerais<br />Brasil
Tak Ming Laio
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Joined: Jun 10, 2003
Posts: 37
I passed at Dec 11, 2003 and not yet received the certificate.
I have send email to SunCert@thomson.com and get this reply:
Thank you for contacting Prometric, a Thomson business.

Please go by what is in the Assignment Watcher (http://www.certmanager.net/sun_assignment/) instead of the new Certification Database (http://www.certmanager.net/~sun). We are still in the process of updating the new database and some information is incorrect.

Unfortunately, certificates for SCEA and SCJD cannot be processed until the i-7 database is fully updated with the results.
We do not know when this problem will be resolved. We are tracking all affected candidates, and will respond when we have resolution.

Thank you for your continued patience in this matter.

Sincerely,
Shareon
SUN CertManager Support
Edward Peters
Greenhorn

Joined: Aug 28, 2003
Posts: 8
Same for me, I passed December 23th. When I contacted Prometric I received the same email in response, in which they thanked me for my continued patience in this matter. I considered this a very serious insult. Further more the email stated that Prometric is tracking all affected candidates
(using their corrupted database?), which I think is just not true. Is there anyone out there who has been contacted by Prometric about this?
Finally the email tells me that they do not know when this problem will be resolved. I think that if you do not know WHEN this problem will be resolved, you actually do not know HOW to resolve this problem. And when you do not know how to do your work, you are ... unprofessional.
Sean Walker
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Joined: Feb 04, 2004
Posts: 64
Why are you surprised? Just look at how lousy Sun and Prometric's web sites are for supporting its SCEA customers.
Perhaps I have misunderstood where I should have gone and when, and so may have complicated matters for myself. But I don't think so.


Sean Walker<br />PMP, SCEA, SCWCD, SCJP
Roger Zacharias
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Joined: Jul 01, 2003
Posts: 49
Hi,
same for me! I also didn�t get my certificate yet :-(
After working my ass off this is surely the worst what could happen. Also I have nothing to show my boss.
I have also complained at Sun.
Regards
Roger


SCEA
peng chen
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Joined: Jun 09, 2003
Posts: 35
Still now ,I am also not get the certificate from sun,and recently I sent the inquiry to sun,he also returned a mail saying that the problem for new site still exist.
So upwards friends,Can you get the certificate now?


SCJP 1.4 SCJD SCWCD1.4 SCBCD1.3<br />SCEA OCP(8i%9i)
Leonardo Penha
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Joined: Feb 15, 2002
Posts: 68
I too had the same problem and got the same response.


Leonardo Penha<br />SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCEA, SCMAD, SCDJWS
Eduardo Rodrigues
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Joined: Jul 01, 2003
Posts: 199
I think that Sun must find a way to deliver the certificates faster!
I'll be very happy if I could pay more to receive my certificate in a couple of days.
Like the Amazon's deliver services... If you want a book faster you pay more for this. Even here, in Brazil, the products arrives in a few days...
My two cents...
Bye
peng chen
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Joined: Jun 09, 2003
Posts: 35
I think the fault is caused by Sun ,so we should not afford any more for it, ,What database is the Sun used,how long does it take to migrate the database!!perhpas We should wait one year to wait the kit,god should know,
As I know some one passed the scjd later than me has gotten the certificate kit,why?That is the Sun effenicy.
manoj pillai
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Joined: Sep 16, 2002
Posts: 41
Same with me too! I passed the exam last month and upon request received the same explanation from sun saying migration issues! It has been a long journey for me, I passed part one way back in 2002 but submitted part2 only this year. Looks like its gonna be another long wait for the kit now :roll:


SCJP,SCJD,SCEA,SCMAD,SCDJWS,SCJP5.0
Leonardo Penha
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Joined: Feb 15, 2002
Posts: 68
I had the same issues as everyone else in this thread. I posted a message here yesterday. Surprisingly when I got home from work I received my certificate.
c s ng
Greenhorn

Joined: Dec 16, 2003
Posts: 7
Congratulation!!! I am not lucky as you, I am still waiting the certificate...
k.p thottam
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Joined: Jun 29, 2001
Posts: 77
Hi Guys ,
My situation is down right funny , the old Sun's Site indicated that I have successfully completed my assignment and I have passed ( score is under 100%, unlike most of the postings I see here ) , but when I go to the new Sun site it showed me as failed. Two days ago I sent them an email , and now the new site does not even show that I took part 3 .
If Sun wants to be in the education business they must take these issues seriously.
thanks
K.P.Thottam


K.P.Thottam (K.P.T)<br /> <br />Sun Certified Enterprise Architect,TOGAF 8 Certified,Certified Information System security Professional (CISSP),SCJDWS,SCWCD,SCJP,MCP
Matt Dole
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Joined: Mar 06, 2001
Posts: 17
i passed in early december of 2003, still no certificate and the same canned response from sun mentioned earlier. very unprofessional. after all the hard work i put in and the hundreds of dollars spent for the exam!!! We need to organize and draw attention to this. slashdot anyone?
Billy Tsai
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Joined: May 23, 2003
Posts: 1304

[ March 07, 2004: Message edited by: Andrew Monkhouse ]

BEA 8.1 Certified Administrator, IBM Certified Solution Developer For XML 1.1 and Related Technologies, SCJP, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCDJWS, SCJD, SCEA,
Oracle Certified Master Java EE 5 Enterprise Architect
James J Zhang
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 06, 2004
Posts: 11

[ March 07, 2004: Message edited by: Andrew Monkhouse ]

SCEA, SCJWS, SCJP, OCP 9i/8i, Teradata.
Andrew Monkhouse
author and jackaroo
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Hi Billy & Jamesjian,
I have removed your posts, as they are not relevant for this forum, and could be very inflammatory.
This forum exists to discuss the SCEA certification. I have allowed the general discussion on why the certification packs have not been sent out for the last few months because it does affect many of the members of this forum.
But this is not the place to discuss Sun's general policies, or the policies of various countries.
Regards, Andrew


The Sun Certified Java Developer Exam with J2SE 5: paper version from Amazon, PDF from Apress, Online reference: Books 24x7 Personal blog
c s ng
Greenhorn

Joined: Dec 16, 2003
Posts: 7
i just received the message from SUN.
------------------------------------------------------
I am sorry for the delay in responding to your request.

Your test result has been fixed in our database. You should be able to
see this once I7 imports results again sometime this week.

Regards,

Kelly
SunCert@thomson.com
------------------------------------------------------
it seems that i can see my results on this week.
Ananth Devadoss
Greenhorn

Joined: Aug 04, 2003
Posts: 12
Guys,
When I saw this thread I was little concerned about my certificate too because I passed SCEA on 2/29/2004. Surprisingly I got my certificate in yesterday mail which is exactly 10 days after passing the exam.
How come Sun has problem sending certificates to only some of the guys. Doesn't the same database stores all the records for everybody?
k.p thottam
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Joined: Jun 29, 2001
Posts: 77
Could be by first name "A" ?? So all first names starting with "A" got it ??
That is the most rational explaination to a very irrational situation .
bye
kpt
k.p thottam
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Joined: Jun 29, 2001
Posts: 77
By the way did you take the test in US/Canada?
Tak Ming Laio
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Joined: Jun 10, 2003
Posts: 37
Still no certificate.
It is already 3 whole months.
[ March 10, 2004: Message edited by: Tak Ming Laio ]
c s ng
Greenhorn

Joined: Dec 16, 2003
Posts: 7
just received confirmation letter from SUN, and they begin send the certification package to me, i wait for totally 4 months since i passed SCEA.
k.p thottam
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Joined: Jun 29, 2001
Posts: 77
Has anyone used the new
"https://i7lp.integral7.com/durango/do/login?ownername=sun&channel=sun&basechannel=prometric"
new incident section to enquire about your certificate ??
I created a new incident couple of days ago and no response from them .
May be other must all create a new incident so that they take notice of us .550$ USD is more than half a month's rent !!!
Bob Wood
Greenhorn

Joined: Feb 11, 2004
Posts: 2
Hello
I 've exactly the same problem:
- uploaded the assignment on december , the 13th
- taken the part 3 on dec 20th (2003)
and still no news... three month afer !
Even more: the records of my exam for part3 had been recently removed from the Prometric database. Prometric told me it was a normal cleaning to prepare the database for the actual results, which I'm still waiting.
Very bad ! :-(
I know that Sun/Prometric had had problems for uploading assignments around December the 10th (at that time, the database had been closed for quite a few days).
[ March 12, 2004: Message edited by: Bob Wood ]
k.p thottam
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Joined: Jun 29, 2001
Posts: 77
Dear Sun Educational services
the new incident section on the new certmanager site is being totally ignored . the whole idea of that section is so that we can give a feedback to Sun Educational services . When you create a new incident you are promised that with in 4 business days you will get a reply , but until now I have heard nothing ..... As the technical manager on some high profile projects ( VP s look at it ) when we have issues we post it on the site with an ETA . There is nothing to be shamed of when things do not go as planned , just keep your users informed and set timelines .
thanks
kpt
Matt Scoob
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 14, 2004
Posts: 1
Dear all,

Although this area is not related to my position, I'll make sure the appropriate people in Sun are aware of your concerns. Hopefully you all will receive your packs in a timely manner.
I can only apologize on behalf of Sun Microsystems and those responsible.
Regards,
Matt.
Sun Microsystems.
peng chen
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Joined: Jun 09, 2003
Posts: 35
HI ,Matt
thanks your taking care our fuss,please you help us to check the new site .HOw long will you take to fix it,and how long do me to get my scjd certificate? :
k.p thottam
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Joined: Jun 29, 2001
Posts: 77
HI Matt ,
thanks for drawing attention to this issue within Sun .
Looking forward for a quick resolution of this issue .
thanks
kpt
peng chen
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Joined: Jun 09, 2003
Posts: 35
Hi, all friends here ,Today I just received the mail from Sun which saying that the problem for ddelaying kit has fixed ,thanks god and thanks everyone ,specially Andrew,without our striving for ,we can not get the score,so if you who postting here now had found the problem had not fixed till nowm,you can try best to send more mails to enquiry,should remember,the victory is in your hand!
the Sun mail is follow:
"
Dear Peng,
Thank you for contacting Prometric, a Thomson business.
We are very sorry for the delay in receiving your Sun Certified Developer for the Java 2 Platform certificate. The problem with these certificates has now been fixed, and your welcome kit will be processed shortly.
If we can be of further assistance to you, please respond to this email.
Thank you for testing with Prometric!
Sincerely,
Shareon
SUN CertManager Support
"
M Green
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 19, 2004
Posts: 1
Dear Sun Certified Professionals:
Sun Certification Services is aware of the delay in the delivery of certification kits to those of you who have passed your exams.
Due to the migration to our new Certification database, many of you have not received your certification kits in a timely manner. We are actively working with Prometric to resolve this issue as soon as possible.
For those of you who have not received your certificates, please contact me directly at monica.green@sun.com and I will have your certification kit expedited to you the same day if it has not been sent already. We do apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. We here at Sun Certification Services value your investment in Sun technology and would like to continue to serve you in your certification needs. Please feel free to contact me with feedback regarding this issue or any other concerns you may have about our program or process.
Again, we do apologize for any inconvenience this has caused and hope you will give us a chance to make this right.
Regards,
Monica Green
Sun Certification Customer Services
k.p thottam
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Joined: Jun 29, 2001
Posts: 77
thanks Sharon and Monica Green , I checked cert manager on-line and I found confirmation of my SCEA , I have now ordered the logo . I can now face my manager .
bye
kpt
 
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