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Which Tier will LDAP fit in?

Leon Chen
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From J2EE Architecture point of view, which Tier will LDAP fit in? Is it in Middle Tier or in EIS tier? Thanks
[ September 08, 2004: Message edited by: Leon Chen ]

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Dan Drillich
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Based on several pages which I found by searching in Google for 'ldap middleware', ldap is considered to be a Middleware product.

For example, http://middleware.internet2.edu says:

Middleware, or "glue", is a layer of software between the network and the applications. This software provides services such as identification, authentication, authorization, directories, and security.


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Frank Silbermann
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LDAP is an interface for directory systems. A directory is a database that is optimized for many fast reads and fewer, slower writes. Since databases go in the EIS tier, that's where I would put it.
James Wang
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I agree Frank, it should be a data tier like database.


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Dan Drillich
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Frank & James,

It's not totally clear to me that LDAP is a Middleware product. So, I asked my colleagues here at the Middleware department in this _huge_ company (quarter of million people) and they indeed support LDAP.
I also think that conceptually, LDAP is much closer to the app server than the DB. It provides identification, authentication and authorization services very quickly. It is an integral part of the services the Middleware tier provides.
In other words, its functionality is tied to the app server functionality.

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Dan
Ramon Gill
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Hi everyone,
I think everybodies right! LDAP is one of those things that can have many interpretations. It is closely linked with the server, but also has a database which can be considered to be on the EIS tier.

Why not think of it as a pluggable security mechanism instead (i.e. a service)? similar to how DB2 works with JDBC?

You can choose between a variety of security and persistence mechanisms.

Ray
 
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