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I passed part II/III with 78

Fabio Berrio

Joined: May 02, 2005
Posts: 4
Hello every one:

I have been a silent participant in this forum. I passed part II/III with 78%, and I had passed part I with 85% two months ago.

The discussions in this forum were very helpful. Thanks to every one.

In general, I think there are some weaknesses about the grade mechanism of part II/II of the certification. Sun gives a grade about Component, Class and Sequence diagrams, but there is no explicit grade about architectural matters (scalability, performance,...) and how well the requirements are met.

To solve the assignment, I followed all of the advices given through the discussions in this forum, the BluePrints guidelines, the best practices and considerations in Core J2EE design patterns, but I don't (and possible will not) know where I was wrong. Also, I made a 12 page architecture document and documented my diagrams (maybe I did more than needed).

I got 42 in class diagrams, 27 in component diagrams, and 9 in sequence diagrams. I don't know if the person at Sun did't like the way I partitioned the component diagram in two to make it more understandable; or maybe I put many components.

Ok, I am certified now and I am happy for this achievement. Thanks again,

Fabio Berrio
Prasad Kuppa
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Joined: Apr 01, 2002
Posts: 151


Yes, I agree with you, I too felt like I have satisfied all requirements and made sure that diagrams pertain to UML notation. I have 5+ years of J2EE experience and I architect and design a lot as part of my work. I was expecting 95+%, but all I got was 88%. Really, I don't know their expectations to make the architecture perfect.

But, pass is a pass. now, you are a certified J2EE Architect. That is enough to feel proud!

good luck,

[ May 02, 2005: Message edited by: Prasad Kuppa ]
Vagner Freitas
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Joined: Aug 02, 2004
Posts: 85
Hi Fabio,

Don't worry about the score, it was great.
I understod your view point and I agree with you.


Karen Young

Joined: Jan 12, 2005
Posts: 10
Congratulations!! How many classes/components did you have in your diagrams?

Joined: Nov 25, 2004
Posts: 9
congratulations Fabio!

I think so too, additionaly I cleared the certification with exactly the same score part 1 with 85% and 2&3 with 78%, in my case the victim was class diagram, with only 27. So, I couldn't understand what may be wrong if components and sequence diagramas are good (39 and 12 respectively). This situation is very suspect.

But, you have passed...
Fabio Berrio

Joined: May 02, 2005
Posts: 4
Karen, I had 19 classes. The diagram class was technology independent.

I did two component diagrams, one generic and another use-cases specific; the first one had 10 components and the second one 30 components (I preferred to give detailed diagrams). Also, the components were grouped by logical tiers.
Marcelo Sousa Ancelmo
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Joined: Jan 17, 2002
Posts: 498

Congrats Fabio


Marcelo Sousa Ancelmo - Brazil
Lucy Hummel
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Joined: Jul 22, 2004
Posts: 71
Well done
Manjula Venugopal

Joined: Mar 03, 2005
Posts: 3

May i know how long it took for the part 2/3 results and where to check for the results.. i mean website/url?

- Manju.
Fabio Berrio

Joined: May 02, 2005
Posts: 4
Manju, it took about 3 weeks for the part 2/3 results to appear in the web site. The web site url is (the same site for uploading and downloading the assignment).

Dhiren Joshi
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Joined: Dec 09, 2003
Posts: 463
U are certified now and thats what counts. Dont worry about the score.

I agree. Here's the link:
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