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Harry Tan
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Joined: Jan 19, 2005
Posts: 26
SCEA is my first java certification and I've just passed it.

I would like your advice on what would be the next good certification for me to take?

I feel rather bored with my job now.
Lucy Hummel
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Joined: Jul 22, 2004
Posts: 71
Originally posted by Harry Tan:
SCEA is my first java certification and I've just passed it.

I would like your advice on what would be the next good certification for me to take?

I feel rather bored with my job now.



Hi Harry,

If you feel rather bored with your job, why do you not looking for a new one that is more challenged?

Lucy
Harry Tan
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Joined: Jan 19, 2005
Posts: 26
I'm a java architect for the last 5 years. But for the previous 3 years I did not enjoy my job. It is purely my money making machine.

The reason behind this could be little challenge I face in current working environment or possibly I don't have great passion in programming work.

When I'm at home I almost never read programming book. I will mostly read stock market books, self development books, and non IT books.
I'm mostly interested in running my own business.

I've thought of doing other job but the money earned still can't be compared to my current job.

I've also thought to run my own business but I still have no viable plan for any business.

I'm really in career crisis
Dhiren Joshi
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Joined: Dec 09, 2003
Posts: 463
Hi if u want a challenging certification just for kicks, Go for the Sun certified developer for Java web services. The name is very deceiving, this certification needs more architectural knowledge of web services and little bit of programming. It s combination of SCEA Part-1 plus web services architecture and lot of new technology. Good for u u read lot of stuff go for reading RFC type stuff for the webservices standard's. No UML stuff but lot of architectural security etc.
HTH
Dhiren
Harry Tan
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Joined: Jan 19, 2005
Posts: 26
Dhiren,

tx.
But does it require 'programmer certification'?

I've not taken any programmer certification yet.
Peter Sin
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Joined: Jan 13, 2005
Posts: 547
Originally posted by Harry Tan:
Dhiren,

tx.
But does it require 'programmer certification'?

I've not taken any programmer certification yet.


Yes, It needs the SCJP certification. You may consider IBM Certified Solution Developer - Web Services Development with WebSphere Studio V5.1. This requires only 1 IBM test. Basically, I like "1 test for 1 certification".
Lucy Hummel
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Joined: Jul 22, 2004
Posts: 71
Originally posted by Harry Tan:
I'm a java architect for the last 5 years. But for the previous 3 years I did not enjoy my job. It is purely my money making machine.

The reason behind this could be little challenge I face in current working environment or possibly I don't have great passion in programming work.

When I'm at home I almost never read programming book. I will mostly read stock market books, self development books, and non IT books.
I'm mostly interested in running my own business.

I've thought of doing other job but the money earned still can't be compared to my current job.

I've also thought to run my own business but I still have no viable plan for any business.

I'm really in career crisis


Hi Harry,

I got your points.

The two options mentioned by Dhiren and Peter are quite okay.
But - there is always a but - you have to pass before hand
another exam.

How about the IBM XML certifcate. I guess that is more programmatic stuff. In that case it is out of scope for you.

My best wishes
Lucy
Manjula Venugopal
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Joined: Mar 03, 2005
Posts: 3
Hi,

I too got my SCEA results just recently.

How about Project Management (PMP), if you are bored with technical side you can try management side. PMP comes in handy for your business too...
www.pmi.org

Manju
Harry Tan
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 19, 2005
Posts: 26
I believe, PM can be acquired whenever someone is given the responsibility to manage.

Any suggestion of a new challenging job?
I Roberts
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Joined: Dec 16, 2004
Posts: 66
Hi,

Harry you mention that you have been a Java Architect for the last five years and, from your programming statement, it sounds as though you have been very close to the coal face.

My current role as application architect is a little more generic in that, even though my previous role used J2EE extensively, I must assess what type of technology is best for the task in hand. My role varies from coal face to enterprise architecture; also known as solution architecture. Therefore, my day to day work varies quite a lot and even more so by project. The ability to evolve and learn new skills and technologies is key in the role as software architect; it is critical to maintain a honest and knowledgable understanding of the scope of the problem that has been presented to you and the ability to assess and provide a solution at varous abstractions depending upon the audience.

If you feel that you have been too technically focused, which I can appreciate because I too became bogged down at the coal-face at one time, try some other skills that are critical to your role as an architect (e.g. BPM, SOA Evolution etc). There are many forums out there that are evolving the next series of methodologies, notation and framework - OMG, Sun etc., ask to become involved. A good starting point is the World Wide Institute of Software Architects (WWISA) or OMG etc.

Don't become constraint within the bounds and realms of Java. Although, I have to be honest, I'm certainly in the "Java Camp", you must assess other technologies and make your own judgement. There is simply so much to learn because there is so much evalution. I've been doing this over 20 years and the last six or so years have been far the most exciting! I nearly changed my career seven years ago!

All the best and good luck! If it is simply IT you are no longer interested in then I hope you find something you enjoy.




Ian Roberts<br />Application Architect<br />SCJP, SCJD, SCEA, OCUP Fundamental
 
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