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No Prerequisite for SCEA

Jessica Ngui
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Hello everyone,

I am kinda of surprised that the above exam (SCEA - Sun Certified Enterprise Architect) doesn't require any prerequisite. Not even SCJP or some Java knowledge?

Any idea on the above? Thanks


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Theodore Casser
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Well, you have to think about what the examination is for, really. It goes back to Sun's liking "roles" for everyone on a software team.

SCEA is designed to go to the software architect role, which doesn't necessarily involve knowing how to program. (Scary, but true.) All that's required is knowing how the technologies fit together and what's the right fit for the right situation, rather than an exam like SCJP which requires knowing how to actually do things with Java.

So I don't think it's a huge surprise - slightly so, but not huge...


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SCJP/SCSNI/SCBCD/SCWCD/SCDJWS/SCMAD/SCEA/MCTS/MCPD... and so many more letters than you can shake a stick at!
Sreenivasa Majji
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You have a valid question. SCJP concentrates on the basic Java knowledge, I mean core of language features, where as SCEA concentrates more on applicablity of J2EE in an enterprise level. For an architect I think it's good to know the Java language in general but not at level like readLine() is part of BufferedInputStream or File object.


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Jessica Ngui
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Err....Has anyone actually doing the SCEA without knowing how to code in Java?
Sreenivasa Majji
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World is very strange place. Any thing can happen Once I saw a TIBCO developer came as Java technical lead, he doesn't even know the versions of Java. He been there for more than an year and joined other company as TIBCO developer. So I will not be surprised if I see somebody coming as 'J2EE architect' without knowing Java.
Theodore Casser
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Originally posted by Jessica Ngui:
Err....Has anyone actually doing the SCEA without knowing how to code in Java?


I have no idea. I imagine it's possible, though, since nothing in any part of the exam requires knowledge of how the language works, just the features of it... I wouldn't want to attempt it, without having some coding knowledge, though.
Jessica Ngui
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Hi Sreenivasa,
What does TIBCO mean eh?


Hi Theodore,
That's what puzzled me too. I thought knowing some Java will be a minimum requirement. Perhaps, having Sun Certified Associate as the prerequisite will be good eh.
Anwar Jamshed
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The architect could be employed for one or multiple of roles,
1) Guiding an implementation through a complete development lifecyle
2) Proposing some structural changes in an existing system without much interruption/cost.
3) Training and mentoring of people in complex framework such as J2EE towards some corner-stone end in project development.
4) Align strategic business needs with that of technology.
These are 4 common. There are many more, and they go along with the needs of any enterprise that takes its IT infrastructure seriously.


single best thing an ideal programmer can wish for is the ability to communicate his code.
 
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