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SCJP and then directly SCEA.

srinivas m
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Hello,

Was just wondering whether SCEA can be successfully taken without taking WCD and BCD.

Thanks for reading.
Sunjeev Shetty
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Yes it can ..though scbcd helps a lot in preparation.
Cleuton Sampaio
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Yes!

I have seen people with SCBCD and SCWCD fail in the SCEA part II exam. What is important is field experience! If you had never designed a full J2EE application, then part II will be a big headache for you, no matter what certifications you have.


Cleuton Sampaio<br />Systems Architect<br />(SCEA,SCWCD,SCBCD,MCSE,MCSD)
Theodore Casser
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Actually, you can even take the SCEA without the SCJP. There's no programming required for the certification, and no prerequisite - it's an architecture certification rather than software design, and Sun considers them different job roles. (And, as has been mentioned, this therefore means that programming experience or other certifications don't necessarily help with passing...)


Theodore Jonathan Casser
SCJP/SCSNI/SCBCD/SCWCD/SCDJWS/SCMAD/SCEA/MCTS/MCPD... and so many more letters than you can shake a stick at!
srinivas m
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Thanks for your generous replies.



srinivas m
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Well,

Thats good to know. Can you also tell me how should one go for preparing the part-I and part-II of SCEA. Can you tell me the details of SCEA.

Thanks for reading.
Cleuton Sampaio
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Joined: Nov 11, 2005
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Hi,

I suggest you to read the following books:

1) Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for J2EE Study Guide (Exam 310-051) by Paul Allen and Joseph Bambara. This book will help you with part-I
2) Whizlabs simulator for SCEA - will sure help you with part-I
3) Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for J2EE Technology Study Guide by Mark Cade and Simon Roberts. This book will help you with parts I and II.

First, when you are ready, buy a voucher and register for part-I exam.

After successfully passing part-I, buy another voucher and contact Sun to get your assignment. I recommend you to buy two vouchers (one for part-III).

After finish your assignment, ask prometric (suncert@thomson.com) for upload rights and upload your assignment.

Imediatelly after uploading your assignment, contact a prometric test center and schedulle part-III.

They will mark your assignment only after completion of part-III.


And good luck.
srinivas m
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Joined: May 26, 2005
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Thanks for your comprehensive reply.

I did not take WCD and BCD and also I did not work extensively in servlets/EJB. I have SCJP and I am fairly knowledgeable with J2EE (servlets, EJB).

In my situation, is it a good idea to prepare good enough and appear for SCEA in few months (may be 3-4 months) ?

Or taking WCD and BCD and then appearing for SCEA ?

Your reply will be appreciated.

Thanks for reading.
Cleuton Sampaio
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Well, if you are knowledgeable with EJB, then it is not necessary to take SCWCD and SCBCD.

In fact the architect is not expected to be a certified developer, although it helps a lot.

Are you currently working as an architect? If yes, then you should go to the SCEA exam. If not, then it is up to you.

IMO the most difficult part is not SCEA part I, but part II. You will be required to produce a high-level architectural design for an application and, in this case, experience counts more than certifications.
Watsh Rajneesh
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Hi Cleuton,

If the book Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for J2EE Technology Study Guide by Mark Cade and Simon Roberts covers both part 1 and 2 then what is the value add of the other book you recommend above (Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for J2EE Study Guide (Exam 310-051) by Paul Allen and Joseph Bambara)? Please clarify.

Thanks
Watsh


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