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Newbie Q - will SCBCD and IBM OOAD/UML will help?

Rahul Toaikani
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Joined: Feb 14, 2007
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Hi folks,
I am new here but lurking for a while.You guys rock!!! Great forum.

My goal is to pass SCEA however I am considering taking SCBCD and IBM OOAD/UML as well, so that SCEA will be an easy one after that.

I have over 10 years of experience in software development but zero exp in EJB/J2EE and UML except that I read about the technologies few times here and there but not on serious level.

I am currently senior developer but my goal is to go toward architect role.What do you think? Will SCBCD and IBM OOAD/UML will help - or just shoot directly at SCEA.Am I going in right direction?

Any "real" J2EE architects here at Ranch?

Appreciate your response.

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peter cooke
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Joined: Mar 16, 2004
Posts: 310
my opinion is not relevant to the pending J2EE5 SCEA exam.

the developer exams (scbcd, scwcd, scdjws) are detail oreinted.

the archetict exam is high level:
which java technology do we use to meet a specific requirement.
what patterns do we apply to make *-ABLE, and the skill.
how do we interperate/communicate business requirments to the developer.

Passing the developer before the SCEA will help in that you will know what a specific J2EE technology can/cannot/should/should not do.

I found that having passed SCBCD and SCWCD before the SCEA, allowed me to frequently eliminate 1-2 possible choices.


CIAO Peter M. Cooke
Ådne Brunborg
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Joined: Aug 05, 2005
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I don't know about the IBM OOAD/UML certification, but I would not take the SCBCD unless you really want to learn EJB. I have broad experience in EJB 2.x, (including EntityBeans), but found the focus of SCBCD to be way too much on EntityBeans - and EntityBeans isn't really Best Practice.

So, instead of the SCBCD, I went directly for the SCEA. You will need to learn some J2EE / EJB, though, and I would consider reading e.g. Head First EJB. You probably won't need to read the entire book, though. And if it helps, I have put some of my notes here - you might find the file "ejb for scea" helpful


Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
peter cooke
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Originally posted by �dne Brunborg:
....but found the focus of SCBCD to be way too much on EntityBeans - and EntityBeans isn't really Best Practice.


I.M.H.O. the exam needs to test knowledge of all EJB's and go overboard on testing EJB functionality that is most prone to mis-use. Most of the companies, that I have worked for, have mis-applied EJB technology. This mis-application of technology has caused their apps to receive very poor porfamance. I will grant you that the lack of knowledge on how to properly choose/configure/use this complex technology has caused developers to choose other frameworks.

That said the SCBCD has just released a new J2EE 5 version. I know nothing of EJB3. How marketable a EJB 3 cert will be, remains to be seen.
At least it is proof that you are trying to remain uptodate with current technology.
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Muhammad Asif
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Joined: Jul 13, 2001
Posts: 202
According to my personal experience they definitely help.

At least they helped me a lot.


SCJP, SCBCD, SCWCD 1.4, IBM-OOAD, SCEA, TCP, TCSS, TCIS, ATCP
 
I agree. Here's the link: http://ej-technologies/jprofiler - if it wasn't for jprofiler, we would need to run our stuff on 16 servers instead of 3.
 
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