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Part I: Cleared........

Manish S Malhotra
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Joined: Jan 19, 2007
Posts: 61

As every body has his / her own day, I was having today.
I cleared the Part I of SCEA exam.
By God grace with 95% .
I have sent this mail just to share my experience with all the Java Ranchers.

Don't go with the percentage, I haven't done any thing brilliant and not I'm .
But satisfied that I got passed what I aim and I tried to cement by basics and studied many new things which will help me a lot in the future.

Many - Many thanks to Java Ranchers, who helped me a lot to clear many things and many people who have responded to my questions ( many) which may be sometime very basic.
But thanks for your patience

I'm more then happy, because there are many reasons as every body use to have but still I'll write because it may be useful to the people who are planning and preparing for this exam and in the same situation like me.

Before this I never any certification exam, even not any exam after my graduation , except few companies entrance papers and nor I am a very fast learner, moderate is the right word for me.

I'm not SCJP, SCWCD or SCDBCD and having 4.5 yrs of work ex in java / j2ee.

So, it was a tough path for me to give this exam and the other hindrances were I was not doing any thing in J2EE from around last 2 years and did EJB coding around 2 years back. And from last two years I was involved in some small R & D and mainly with Core Java + DB + XML's.

But many thanks to my colleague Atul, who is senior to me, he gave me courage to give this exam and then I started.
And many thanks to my boss, who gave me some time to prepare this exam.

I think you all would be tiring of reading this Oscar award receiving kind of script
But I worked little hard to clear by basics of many which I have used long back or even which I haven't even used many technologies practically like in Security like SSL etc.
So, some times having tough time to conceptualize each and every thing.

Now for things which I have to actually tell.

I got 60% in Legacy Connectivity, and in rest of the topics I got 100% marks.

I have used broadly these links and books for the preparation:

For study:
1. Marc Cade's Book.
2. Paul Allen books - Few chapters thoroughly and few just quickly
3. Enterprise JavaBeans´┐Ż, Third Edition, by Richard Monson-Haefel (Whole book for revising each and every thing regarding EJB's, didnt get time in the last to review.)
4. EJB_specs_1.1 ( Mainly Session bean / Entity Beans - Client/Container contract chapter, Transaction, Exception) But study only after you have studied any basic book of ejb and basics are clear to you. Like I did, this is my personal opinion.
5. Mastering EJB 2nd Edition - Ed Roman ( Transations, EJB API)
6. Firewall & Clustering - OnJava articles (study like reverse proxy, stateful firewalls etc. by easily searching on net)
7. Design Patterns - None other then GoF. Firstly I have studied this book in that much detail and thoroughly. And its worth for giving this much time.
And find some corresponding J2EE API which are based on some patterns from
Stephan Notes, I think I got this from Yahoo Architect Group.
8. Security from many notes - Paul Allen for few things like from J2EE point of view. Java2 Security notes from sun. Ramu's notes of yahoo group.
9. Legacy Connectivity - Ramu's notes from Yahoo grp., Paul Allen book.
10. Common Architecture: Paul Allen.
11. Applicability of J2EE: Core J2EE patterns ( Thats give me some hang over of J2EE, which wasnt there from long time for me, Paul Allen.
12. Messaging: Paul Allen chapter.

And by default Marc Cade book for all the topics.

Mock Exams:
I use all the links given in the Java Ranch links.
+ ( there are many given, but I saw only few randomly)

I think those are enough.

You will find these mocks very helpful to get the feel of the exam pattern.

Last day I have used notes of:
1. Stephan - only for Design Patterns
2. John Wetherbie Notes
3. IBM guild for SCEA : j-scea-a4.pdf

Few suggestions: I did initial some mistake by staring solving answers for the topics I use to finish from one book or article but not stably cleared the doubts on that topic. And then few answers I use to give right and few wrong.
For wrong one I use to see the explanations ( if available) and try to clear my doubts. There are two problem with this approach that the answers may be wrong so your fundamentals may become wrong and that is the worst thing.
Secondly, when you will give these papers or questions for your final review you are having some where in your mind that you have already know the answer so you will not put your efforts to solve the problem (It happens with me).
This could also be a problem in the final exam, even if you get the same question

Now the experience of my paper, as I have told earlier mock exams helps me a lot.
Questions were not that tough as everybody use to say, I realized today
I have finished in appx. 45 mins the first round. Then did two rounds of

Most of the questions were not ambiguous ( as per my understanding).

2-3 Scenario based questions were the tough one and 2-3 legacy conn. one where I missed the points.

But as many people have already told that try to think what you think and not the mock exams use to tell. And finally it all depends on your day, I believe in this also, atleast for the questions which are going to come in the paper.

Again thanks to all of you for and Java Ranch site helping me out to clear this exam.

I'm exhaustive right now and not thinking about the Part II.
So, will not be sending any questions and doubts for some time alteast.

Just to say bye but one doubt , Is there any time limit constraint to give the second part after clearing Part I, for e.g. within 6 months or 1 Year I have to clear the second and third Part.

Thanks & Regards,
Manish Malhotra

"Abstraction is the key thing while designing"
Srinivasa Raghavan
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Joined: Sep 28, 2004
Posts: 1228
Hi Manish,

Congrats on getting this great score !! I'm in a same state like you. At present i'm not working in EJB or in web apps . I did it couple of years back. So how long it took for you to prepare for this exam ? I have seen many posters commenting about Ramu's notes . Where can I get that, can youplease mention the yahoo group name or the link ?

Congrats again !

Thanks & regards, Srini
MCP, SCJP-1.4, NCFM (Financial Markets), Oracle 9i - SQL ( 1Z0-007 ), ITIL Certified
Manish S Malhotra
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Joined: Jan 19, 2007
Posts: 61
Hi Srinivas,

Thanks for encouraging me.

It will take atleast 2 months for studying and most important digesting what we are studying. Definitely with your daily office work.

Then finally take around 2 weeks and do hard review and try to find out the points in the topics where we are lacking, After finishing all the books and basic articles.
You can search for scea yahoo group in search site it will give you the link.
And then you can register and then you will get the links for all the documents stored there.

And one more thing which I forgot to write in my long last mail that I want to thanks to my wife also, who has suffered with me for all this period when I have to prepare for this exam.
So thanks to my wife.

Rahul Hinge

Joined: Dec 10, 2004
Posts: 8
Hi Manish,

I am a silent reader of this forum.
Congrats on your great success. Very well done!
Just a small question. Is Gof explains all design patterns in java or c++?
What is the ISBN number for Gof Book?

Cheers !! Party time nowwwww
Sivasundaram Umapathy
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Joined: Aug 10, 2002
Posts: 360

Co-Author - SCMAD Exam Guide - ISBN:9780070077881
Author - Java certification success, Part 4: SCEA
Manish S Malhotra
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Joined: Jan 19, 2007
Posts: 61
Thanks a lot Blue star and Siva for your encouragement.

GoF uses C++ and Smalltalk in sample code section for all the design patterns.
But I think at least from the DP point of view it is understandable.
So, few things are not relevant to java as friend functions etc. and even thye have given example in Smalltalk, which I haven't red much.
See this link to buy from Amazon site:

Thanks & Regards,
Manish Malhotra
Rahul Hinge

Joined: Dec 10, 2004
Posts: 8
Hi Manish,

Thanks a lot for information.

Cheers !
Rosco Duncan
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Joined: Apr 23, 2007
Posts: 41
Nice one Mahesh

I agree. Here's the link:
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