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Prerequisites in terms of other Java Certs

Raguel Koning
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Joined: May 17, 2006
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Hi

Is having passed the SCJP Exam not a prerequisite anymore before writing the SCEA Exam?

I would have thought one needed to know how to code in Java at least before jumping into architecting solutions?

Thanks,

:roll:
Raguel Koning
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Yeah sorry I know I should've checked FAQs...
Theodore Casser
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Sokay. Happens to everyone at some point.

To answer the basic question - Sun's exams are based on job-role. In theory, you don't have to know how to program to do software architecture - you simply have to understand how the various technologies work together and which one fits which problem. (In my last job before the firm I work for, our architect had, in fact, never written a line of Java and was a certified software architect, simply from going through the theory classes in his comp-sci curriculum.)


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SCJP/SCSNI/SCBCD/SCWCD/SCDJWS/SCMAD/SCEA/MCTS/MCPD... and so many more letters than you can shake a stick at!
Patrick Williams
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Theodore, How good was this architect? Just curious.


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Theodore Casser
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Originally posted by Patrick Williams:
Theodore, How good was this architect? Just curious.


I'm very good.

All jokes aside... I found that Part II and III were more valuable to me than Part I, if only because Part I requires going back to learn the old specs. Since you can use any general-release Java EE technology for the practical exercise, I think it works out well as proof of whether or not you can plan out a solution using something that would have value in the workplace.

Just my $0.02 though.
Patrick Williams
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Originally posted by Theodore Casser:
(In my last job before the firm I work for, our architect had, in fact, never written a line of Java and was a certified software architect, simply from going through the theory classes in his comp-sci curriculum.)


Either you did not understand my question about the Architect above or you are being coy (maybe they read this board). I understand how the SCEA works, but I was just wondering how good an Architect was that never coded, that's all. I'll consider the question dead.

Edit: I just went back and reread this and it came across as rude. I apologize if that's the way that it sounds, but it was not meant that way.
[ July 06, 2007: Message edited by: Patrick Williams ]
 
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