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Discontinued Sun Certified Enterprise Architect (SCEA) Certification Exams

Paul Michael
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Please note that Sun will discontinue the Sun Certified Enterprise Architect certification exams:

* Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for the Java Platform, Enterprise Edition - Multiple Choice - (Step 1 of 3) (CX-310-051)
* Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for the Java Platform, Enterprise Edition
* Assignment - (Step 2 of 3) (CX-310-300A) Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for the Java Platform, Enterprise Edition - Essay - (Step 3 of 3) (CX-310-061)

This will be effective February 29, 2008. If you hold an exam voucher for any of the mentioned certification exams, you have through December 31st to complete all three parts of this certification. Step 1 and Step 3 can be taken at an authorized Prometric worldwide testing center.


Taken from: http://www.sun.com/training/certification/java/discontinued.html


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Hong Anderson
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Thank you.


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Marcel Dullaart
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Hhrrmmppff,

Discontinuation comes quite soon .
I am currently working on part II, does this now mean that I either have to buy my voucher for part III now or stop working and switch over to SCEA5 part I again?
I feel that sun could've given us some more time.

Thanks,
Marcel


"It would be faithless now to say farewell." (FotR, p. 419)
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Theodore Casser
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Joined: Mar 14, 2001
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I suppose I'd agree that it was awfully short notice that they're discontinuing the original SCEA save that it's so sorely outdated. It'd good to see, though, that they're going to push folks onto the new path, while allowing those in process to finish working on the current.

After all, if you can't finish the Part II project in 10 months, the expiration is the least of your worries.


Theodore Jonathan Casser
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Cameron Wallace McKenzie
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"Discontinued" really means that people can no longer take the exams, right?

From what I've seen, people can still boast SCEA J2EE Certified, so long as they specify that J2EE was the version of the exam that they took.

The SCEA is really, IMHO, the best cert to have, and will look great on a resume no matter what version the professional is touting.

-Cameron Mckenzie
Theodore Casser
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Originally posted by Cameron McKenzie:
"Discontinued" really means that people can no longer take the exams, right?

From what I've seen, people can still boast SCEA J2EE Certified, so long as they specify that J2EE was the version of the exam that they took.


Such is my understanding of the situation as well - Sun moved away, a while ago, from 'expiring' certifications. So long as you don't lead someone to believe that it's a different version than the credential you have, it remains valid.
Srivastava Praveen
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I am planning to appear in part-3 by Feb 20th and normally it takes a month for result to come out. My concern is that in case, I fail in part - 2/3 then how can I take part-2 and 3 again, as last date for buying the voucher is Feb 29th. Please suggest.

Regards,
Praveen
Pav Arora
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Does anyone has any clue what the new pattern of the exam will look like...I mean the new exam will also have 3 stages to get certified? or will it have lesser/more?

thanks
Pav Arora
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Joined: Dec 17, 2007
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Another question based on Sun's discontinued SCEA policy.

If I buy Part 1 now...would I be able to buy part 2& 3 after Feb 29th?

Thanks
Pav Arora
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Joined: Dec 17, 2007
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got the answer for 1st question..I should have researched some more before posting. sorry abut that.

would appreciate if someone can reply the second viz "If I buy Part 1 now...would I be able to buy part 2& 3 after Feb 29th?"
Hong Anderson
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Originally posted by Pav Arora:
got the answer for 1st question..I should have researched some more before posting. sorry abut that.

would appreciate if someone can reply the second viz "If I buy Part 1 now...would I be able to buy part 2& 3 after Feb 29th?"


I recommend you to take the new version, SCEA 5.
Pav Arora
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Thanks K, but thats doesn't answer my question. Anyone?

Can someone gimme sun's contact details here.

Thanks
-p
Andrew Monkhouse
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Pav,

The original posting / the Sun site states that you will not be able purchase part 2 or 3 after February 29th. This is irrespective of your status with part 1.

My personal opinion at the moment is:
  • if you think it will take more than a 3 weeks to prepare for and take the part I exam, then hold off and go for the SCEA 5 package (part I, II, and III).
  • if you are confident that you can pass the old SCEA part I prior to Feb 29, then plan to do so, and then purchase parts II and III prior to the Feb 29 deadline.

  • Regards, Andrew


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    Pav Arora
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    Just called Sun to asked the above question. Told them to reply me by an email so that I have something written. Here's the email reply..
    > Hi Pavan:


    > The customer that has purchased a voucher prior to the EOL date will
    > have access to CX-310-300A and CX-310-061 until December 2008. It
    > will not be sold, but will be available in the backend at Prometric
    > for candidates to complete all three parts.


    This means you will have to call us to purchase parts 2 and 3.

    >
    >
    >
    > Regards,


    > Susan
    Marcello Vieira
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    Joined: May 12, 2006
    Posts: 5
    Hi Pavan,

    I already have the voucher for part1, but I think I will not be able to take it until Feb 29.
    So, according to the response you received from Sun, can I take part1 after Feb 29 and then purchase the voucher for the other parts?

    Thank you.

    Best Regards,
    Leandro
    Pav Arora
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    Joined: Dec 17, 2007
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    Yes, you can take Part 1 after Feb 29. But mind you you have to take all the exams ie Part 1, 2 & 3 before Dec 31 to get certified.

    Reference: http://www.sun.com/training/certification/java/discontinued.html

    Good luck
    -p
    mani vannan
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    Originally posted by Srivastava Praveen:
    I am planning to appear in part-3 by Feb 20th and normally it takes a month for result to come out. My concern is that in case, I fail in part - 2/3 then how can I take part-2 and 3 again, as last date for buying the voucher is Feb 29th. Please suggest.

    Regards,
    Praveen


    Please somebody answer this question. I am too in similar situation.


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    Kevin Patel
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    Joined: Jul 21, 2007
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    Just called Sun to asked the above question. Told them to reply me by an email so that I have something written. Here's the email reply..

    quote: > Hi Pavan:


    > The customer that has purchased a voucher prior to the EOL date will
    > have access to CX-310-300A and CX-310-061 until December 2008. It
    > will not be sold, but will be available in the backend at Prometric
    > for candidates to complete all three parts.


    This means you will have to call us to purchase parts 2 and 3.

    >
    >
    >
    > Regards,


    > Susan


    Hi Pav,

    Could you please pass on the Sun's contact details...

    Are you sure we would be able to buy vouchers for part 2,3 even after Feb 29...incase if we fail...would we be able to buy resubmission voucher?

    I have other doubts...like how many upgrade exams already SCEA guys have to give?...Is it one upgrade exam for all the three parts or one upgrade exam each for all the three parts of the old exam...

    Ranchers please reply...

    Thanks,
    Kevin
    Rahul Das
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    Joined: Nov 26, 2007
    Posts: 17
    Hello friends,

    I already have passed part�1 of the exam on Jan 08, 2008.
    I would line to know what is the exam deadline for me before which I will have to pass the remaining parts, so that I don�t have to repeat part-1 again.
    (w.r.t. Sun will discontinue the exam �CX-310-051�)

    Thanks
    Rahul.
    Ian McGarry
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    Joined: Mar 09, 2006
    Posts: 17
    Hi all,

    A quick question about SCEA version 1!

    I have passed part 1, am nearly finished part 2 and have provisionally booked part 3 for a date in mid March.

    I can't remember how I paid for part two of the exam. So if I was able to download the assignment from http://www.certmanager.net/sun_assignment/assignment.html does this mean I had purchased part 2 or is the voucher for part 2 only requested when the assignment is uploaded?

    I need to know if I need to purchase another voucher as after Feb 29th I won't be able to get them anymore.

    Thanks,
    Ian
    Pav Arora
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    Joined: Dec 17, 2007
    Posts: 28
    Kevin,

    Here's the Sun training number I called; after talking I told her to mail me what she told me as I need to have something in writing. She gracefully agreed and sent me the mail I posted.

    Sun training - (800) 422-8020

    Please post the reply you get.
    alucar lim
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    Joined: Jan 01, 2008
    Posts: 3
    hi all, i have completed part I successfully. but i am still not clear about the discontinuation issues.. i have even tried to email sun. in short this is what i get
    "The 310-300R assignment resubmission will be available for purchase until December 31, 2008, if you should fail to pass the assignment the first time"

    2 concerns
    1) i have already purchased part II, must i really really purchase part III by feb 29, 2008 ?
    2) if i fail part II and part III after 29, 2008, can i purchase again?

    or will purchasing 310-300R cover part II and part III ?
     
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