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What is next after SCEA5?

Sergey Vlasov
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Just wondering which certifications you planning to achieve after SCEA5?
What is your opinion on IT Architect Certification Program http://www.opengroup.org/itac/ and TOGAF� Certification www.opengroup.org/togaf/cert/ ?


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Theodore Casser
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Personally, I'd not yet been planning on moving on to another architect certification as of yet, since I'm still primarily a developer on some level or another - my goal with the architect certification has been to bolster my credentials as a team lead, perhaps a quarter design, a quarter development and a half mentoring.

To be honest... the programs you mention look impressive, but I have yet to see employers looking for them as of yet, much less my uncertainty how they'd apply to my own path. You might find differently.


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Cameron Wallace McKenzie
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Probably depends on which certification beta Sun wants to comp for us.

My goal is to write a book about the experience. That's next for me.

-Cameron McKenzie
jeremias lacanienta
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this question is really relative to your role on your current job or the role you want if you want to transfer to a new company. me i'm planning to do pmp (then finish off the other certs from sun i was not able to take).


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Hong Anderson
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The Open Group ITAC is very interesting, yet it's very expensive, and I think currently I'm not yet qualify to be an ITAC.

About TOGAF, it lasts only 2 years, and re-certify fee is too expensive ($300), I don't think to own it.


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Morten Franorge
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Finishing my Masters degree in Information Systems Management. After that, I really don't know. Probably do some more university studies, not sure what and how though.


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chris zielinski
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I was looking at the IT Architect certification program from the Open Group too, but $1250 seems a little too steep for my liking.. Plus the damm thing is valid for only 3 years.

Since I am fully in the Java platform, I was looking at a SOA/web service or a Spring certification. IBM seems to have a good SOA certification and so does BEA. My guess is that SOA is the next big thing buzz and in my consulting gigs I can see a lot of demand for SOA certification.

But really the 1 thing that I would like to do is to get to put into practice all the JEE5 stuff that I have learned. Now if I can only convince my company to look beyond J2EE - EJB 2.x and Struts!
Nagendra Inuguri
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this question is really relative to your role on your current job or the role you want if you want to transfer to a new company. me i'm planning to do pmp (then finish off the other certs from sun i was not able to take).


I agree with jeremias. I am now looking forward for a SOA certification (preferably IBM's) as I am working in designing and developing SOA products. I think there is no point taking BEA's SOA certification as BEA will be acquired by Oracle. And I am not sure whether Oracle will continue this certification.


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ankur rathi
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I will try to do these:
1. I didn't implement most of the new technologies those were in SCEA 5 because of short span of time for exam. I will try to get my hands on all those.
2. Might go for PMP.
3. Might go for other Sun certifications like SCJP, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCDJWS etc.
Alex Belisle Turcot
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Originally posted by ankur rathi:
I will try to do these:
1. I didn't implement most of the new technologies those were in SCEA 5 because of short span of time for exam. I will try to get my hands on all those.
2. Might go for PMP.
3. Might go for other Sun certifications like SCJP, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCDJWS etc.



I would either do PMP or just slow down on certifications.
Read a book, go the movies, ride your bike..
Paul Michael
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I agree with PMP. Sounds like a good idea.

Especially now with a Head First book readily available for the PMP exam.

But as for me, I'm thinking of trying out some of the certifications from the "dark side".

I might take on MCTS for Web next year.
[ February 27, 2008: Message edited by: Paul Michael ]

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Billy Tsai
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PMP?MBA? PhD?


BEA 8.1 Certified Administrator, IBM Certified Solution Developer For XML 1.1 and Related Technologies, SCJP, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCDJWS, SCJD, SCEA,
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Hong Anderson
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Are you sure do you actually want PMP?

Project manager's role is very different with software architect's role.
Paul Michael
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Hi Kengkaj!

I'm thinking of starting my own software company in the near future.
I would therefore need to wear several hats (hopefully temporarily) in order to leverage the limitation in resources.

So my answer is yes, PMP (or the Associate equivalent CAPM) would still probably be in my list of target certifications in the next few years.
[ February 27, 2008: Message edited by: Paul Michael ]
jeremias lacanienta
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Originally posted by Kengkaj Sathianpantarit:
Are you sure do you actually want PMP?

Project manager's role is very different with software architect's role.


there are actually a couple of company that expects you to do project manager/software architect/system analyst/customer service representative
Billy Tsai
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I know some IBM ITA acts as PM as well
Anderson Fonseca
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I will study for 2 IBM SOA Certifications.


Anderson Fonseca :: Brazil<br />SCJA 1.0, SCJP 1.4, SCWCD 1.4, SCBCD 1.3, SCDJWS, SCEA(I), SCEA 5 (I,II,III)
Hong Anderson
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Originally posted by jeremias lacanienta:


there are actually a couple of company that expects you to do project manager/software architect/system analyst/customer service representative


Well, it's interesting that project manager at those company is "Project Manager" or not, if you know what I mean .

But PMP is quite different from general certifications, because it requires working experience at least 3 years in project management role.
[ February 28, 2008: Message edited by: Kengkaj Sathianpantarit ]
Paul Michael
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Or you can try CAPM. The associate equivalent for PMP.

Eligibility
Applicants must have:

* � Minimum of a high school diploma or the global equivalent
* � 1,500 hours of work on a project team OR 23 contact hours of project management education
Billy Tsai
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Rodrigo Lopes
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Well, I already have my MSC.
I'm also already a PMP. And I have just got SCEA.
I'll take Alex Turcot's advice... Ride a bike, see a movie, read a book
[ March 14, 2008: Message edited by: R Lopes ]
Flavio Oliva
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Originally posted by Cameron Wallace McKenzie:
Probably depends on which certification beta Sun wants to comp for us.

My goal is to write a book about the experience. That's next for me.

-Cameron McKenzie


it would be a pleasure to be a reviewer... let me know if you like the ideia.

Kind Regards,

Fl�vio Oliva


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Victor-OE Cardona
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Hi.

I am preparing to get SCEA5 and next in a couple of years get the CSDP from IEEE Computer Society.

Victor
SCJP, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCDJWS
Vijayagopalan Raveendran
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SOA/WebServices sounds the best next.......along with Web2.0
ESB...JBI...BPM...MDA also share the party....
I'm looking for some new from the IT Industry....


Vijay<br />SCJP 1.5 / SCWCD 1.4 / SCDJWS 1.4 / SCBCD 5/ SCEA 5 (P1)/ SOA 667
Rhold Aquino
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any certification that will help me in my current project will be fine. i'll spend time and money for a certification if i can use it now... otherwise i'll just wait for free or discounted beta exams from any company.

i've also read articles about SOA for legacy applications some three months ago, and i thought it would be nice to work on companies doing that... after my project here, maybe i'll take an SOA certification.


Harold '94<br />==================================<br />SCEA 5, SCBCD 1.3/5, SCWCD 1.4, SCJP 1.2, SCJA<br /> <br />Certified JBOSS 4 Administrator
Serge Kurenkov
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What do you guys think about taking CEH (Certified Ethical Hacker) exam?
Looks pretty interesting for architects.
[ September 24, 2008: Message edited by: Serge Kurenkov ]

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Ghajini Johnson
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Doing certifications more and more....

is it really beneficial? This helps only to shift companies..
Billy Tsai
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Trying to win Lotto is the next best move
Billy Tsai
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Articles describing the Open Group Architect's certification program

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/architecture/cc505971.aspx

http://searchsoa.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid26_gci1334482,00.html
 
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