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SCEA: Passed, but disappointed with the 86 score

Mark Quinn
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Joined: Feb 12, 2007
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SCEA for J2EE 1.4, Score: 86

I finally passed the SCEA for J2EE 1.4 edition. I was little disappointed with the 86 score, and couldn't believe I received 34 (out of 44) only for class diagram. I closely followed Mark Cade's book, especially the class diagram.

I started working on Part II last December, not very hard, through Jan, Feb. I spent about 3 month on Part II. On Feb 23rd, I took the part III. Today, I received the score.

Anyway, I am happy at the end.

Thank you very much for this forum. It adds lots of values to my Part II preparation - Got a lot of thoughts on the BDM.

The losing points on the class diagram -- could be that I broke the original BDM model's relationships (followed some high mark exam taker's suggestions), and added my own assumptions to it. In the original BDM there was no many-to-many relationship. I added a quite few many-to-many relationships in the class diagram with valid assumptions. Perhaps the exam grader doesn't like the way I changed, one argument could be: the business analyst is no longer available, you can't do that.

Again, thanks everyone.
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Grade: P
Score: 86
Comment: n/aThis report shows the total points that could have been awarded in each section and the actual amount of points you were awarded. This information is provided in order to give you feedback on your relative strengths on a section basis. The maximum number of points you could have received is 100, minimum to pass is 70.
Class Diagram (44 maximum) .......................... 34
Component Diagram (44 maximum) ...................... 40 Sequence/Collaboration Diagrams (12 maximum) ........ 12


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Narendra Dhande
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Joined: Dec 04, 2004
Posts: 950
Congratulations


Narendra Dhande
SCJP 1.4,SCWCD 1.4, SCBCD 5.0, SCDJWS 5.0, SCEA 5.0
Paul Michael
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Joined: Jul 02, 2001
Posts: 697
Thank you for sharing and congratulations Mark.

That's one thing I don't like about SCEA, you won't get any constructive feedback (which I think would be more useful to the exam takers) than just scores.

But then again, if SUN did it the other way then they would probably need to maintain lots of different assignment versions to preserve the integrity the exam.


SCJP 1.2 (89%), SCWCD 1.3 (94%), IBM 486 (90%), SCJA Beta (96%), SCEA (91% / 77%), SCEA 5 P1 (77%), SCBCD 5 (85%)
m rinaldi
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Joined: Apr 01, 2008
Posts: 5
posted Yesterday 7:51 PM
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SCEA for J2EE 1.4, Score: 86

I finally passed the SCEA for J2EE 1.4 edition. I was little disappointed with the 86 score, and couldn't believe I received 34 (out of 44) only for class diagram. I closely followed Mark Cade's book, especially the class diagram.

I started working on Part II last December, not very hard, through Jan, Feb. I spent about 3 month on Part II. On Feb 23rd, I took the part III. Today, I received the score.

Anyway, I am happy at the end.

Thank you very much for this forum. It adds lots of values to my Part II preparation - Got a lot of thoughts on the BDM.

The losing points on the class diagram -- could be that I broke the original BDM model's relationships (followed some high mark exam taker's suggestions), and added my own assumptions to it. In the original BDM there was no many-to-many relationship. I added a quite few many-to-many relationships in the class diagram with valid assumptions. Perhaps the exam grader doesn't like the way I changed, one argument could be: the business analyst is no longer available, you can't do that.
m rinaldi
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Joined: Apr 01, 2008
Posts: 5
CONGRATULATION. Great job I think 86% is great. I will be happy just to pass it.
I just uploaded my assignment, and taking part 3 on this Sunday. Just wondering if you can give me some pointers on what topics to prepare for part 3.
Mark Quinn
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Joined: Feb 12, 2007
Posts: 21
Originally posted by m rinaldi:
CONGRATULATION. Great job I think 86% is great. I will be happy just to pass it.
I just uploaded my assignment, and taking part 3 on this Sunday. Just wondering if you can give me some pointers on what topics to prepare for part 3.


Part 3 is easy if you've done part 2 yourself, no challenge. It's just a check to make sure it's you, not someone else who did part 2.

You should be prepared to answer questions in terms of major QoS, architectural tiers, and the like.

Good luck.
[ April 01, 2008: Message edited by: Mark Quinn ]
m rinaldi
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Joined: Apr 01, 2008
Posts: 5
Thanks Mark. I really appreciate your reply. I did part 2 myself. It took me about 6 weeks (had to learn UML tools, used Visual Paradigm - great tool). Hopefully, I will pass.
Awais Bajwa
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Joined: Jan 16, 2001
Posts: 191
Thanks Mark for your post.
Can you please share your experience, how did you cover the requirement of making your design compatible for both web and application client.
Did you do anything in the class diagram. I was thinking of writing two different implimentations of the same interface one for web requests and one for application request.
On the other had I am thinking to make my class diagram agnostic of web or application client.
Please your comments
A.B
Mark Quinn
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Joined: Feb 12, 2007
Posts: 21
Originally posted by Awais Bajwa:
Thanks Mark for your post.
Can you please share your experience, how did you cover the requirement of making your design compatible for both web and application client.
Did you do anything in the class diagram. I was thinking of writing two different implimentations of the same interface one for web requests and one for application request.
On the other had I am thinking to make my class diagram agnostic of web or application client.
Please your comments
A.B


My class diagram is "agnostic of web or application client". I used <<BusinessDelegate>> to support both Web and Application clients. That's just one way of doing that. Definitely you can create 2 different implementations to support different clients - it's a design choice and decision, as long as you have assumptions to state why you're doing that. It's fine.

Also, the Component diagram should show the support of different clients in my mind.

The class diagram -- if you can make it work without breaking the original BDM relationships, do that. I suspect my losing points were due to that. I don't have any interfaces in my class diagram.

You should pay more attention to the class diagram because it's the core of your whole assignment.
 
It is sorta covered in the JavaRanch Style Guide.
 
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