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Anyone failed?

Hakan Jonsson

Joined: Nov 18, 2003
Posts: 4
I passed too! Was there anyone who failed?
Mehdi Chaouachi
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Joined: Jul 02, 2003
Posts: 87
Are u kidding ?

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Pradeep bhatt
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Joined: Feb 27, 2002
Posts: 8927

Why are asking people who failed.

Jim Crawford
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Joined: Sep 08, 2002
Posts: 127
Ye. Don't see many people that failed here. In fact I haven't seen one. Maybe natural not to post if you didn't pass, but because of this thread I was wondering about fail numbers.

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v giri
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Joined: Aug 27, 2002
Posts: 128
I failed in the SCMAD beta exam. It is natural not to post failures. But I posted my result elsewhere also just to assuage guys who passed that the result data type is not constant boolean true.
As I commented on the other post, I did not deserve to pass. I do not think failure is a shame but there is a lot more motivation to post if you pass - with/without high %. But sometimes it does look a little skewed when most of the posts of SC* results are >85%.
Additionally several posts also give an impression that pass % is very low. There have been posts that pass % of exams should be drastically increased. Certification exams evaluate awareness - not the ability. One cannot become a good programmer by studying 10-line code snippets without a specific objective. Hence compared to 75% score, a 95% score could mean a greater awareness of code syntax and APIs but may not make the difference between a good (or even a reasonable) and brilliant programmer. As new technology evolves, every vendor need to provide the industry probable candidates who may do well in technology. Moreover most of us give exams with little experience in new technology while trying to adapt. Setting the bar too high can only be counterproductive. Of course, what is too high is debatable.
Just my 2 cents
Best wishes
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Marc Peabody
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Joined: Feb 05, 2003
Posts: 4727

Jim & Hakan,
You'll see more than one if you read the posts.
I'm sure most of those who failed did not want to post, though. There's not much reason to unless it is to share experience - to let those in the future know what will make them ready. I wish more of the passers AND failers would share their experience such as to how much hands-on they've had with the technology, how many actual study-hours were spent, what resources were used to study, etc. This goes for any of the cert forums.
Saying "I passed with XX%" doesn't really contribute much to the community.

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Billy Tsai
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Joined: May 23, 2003
Posts: 1304
are mobile applications hotter and in more demand than web applications these days?

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Marc Peabody
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Joined: Feb 05, 2003
Posts: 4727

I'm surprised that someone with so many certs doesn't know the answer to that.
The short answer: not yet.
Besides, I think differentiating between webapp and mobile app has a bit of a gray line.
I agree. Here's the link:
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