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Best'n easy app server

faiza athar
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Joined: Oct 30, 2001
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I just got the voucher email and wanted a recommendation for the easy to learn ejb app server for this exam. I have used weblogic and was wondering if anyone can compare jboss with that.
Jamie Shi
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Joined: Oct 01, 2002
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I like the free one from SUN for learning. You can try it. Download it from here.
tony kanvas
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Joined: Oct 26, 2002
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what about JBoss ?
Syed AliRaza Zaidi
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Joined: May 12, 2002
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Well it was a bit complicated to deal with JBoss 3.0 as I used previously when I prepared for Enterprise Connectivity Test but its really a good one now that 3.0.1 final has been released I have heard its not so much difficult to use you have to set only JAVA_Home but haven't used it well its about 32.7 MB comes with its own web server named Jetty and you can have one with tomcat also but then size will be 38.7 MB and I think If I will put this download on my Internet Cable is goinng to turn my connection off due to extra network load and secondly I need to install some download utility as it might disconnect in between .So trying not to use JBoss this time.
Probably I will go for Oracle 10 i Application Server.
Andrew Perepelytsya
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Joined: Aug 21, 2002
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Well, JBoss is over v3.2.1 already now.
And what is 40 MB? it takes a couple of hours to download it even through a modem connection. Or you don't have to do it with Oracle server? Do you have it on the CD then?
Though, JBoss is an excellent server, I wouldn't recommend it if you are an EJB newbie. You will sink in the amount of work if you try to accomplish it only with your hands.
They have an Eclipse plugin for JBoss descriptors editing, but I'm a fan of XDoclet
J2EE RI will be ok for a start. Has a GUI, not to many options to tweak. What about Sun ONE Server 7? Sun have a developer's edition and a platform edition which is free for deployment even. Though, don't ask me for the links, look at the Sun's site.
Pradeep bhatt
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faiz, I guess you already have a weblogic certification. Sorry if I am wrong.

faiza athar
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Joined: Oct 30, 2001
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Yup, I am wls certified .
I am also teaching a group of students for this exam and WLS requires more time,explanation and understanding as compared to some simple and easy to use servers which dont have fancy options.
By the way have you tried the wls8.1???
take care!
Pradeep bhatt
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No..i haven't tried with wls 8.1
Titu singh

Joined: May 05, 2003
Posts: 23
don't try weblogic 8.1 if u have less RAM (I have 128 MB with pIII), u will be lost. it consumes all the resources from the machine and still difficult to run.(i mean, give one instruction and go for tea, cofee, b/f and .....) still u will need to wait.
WLS 7.0 is helpful.
but for the exam RI from sun will also helpful.
Chintan Rajyaguru
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Joined: Aug 19, 2001
Posts: 341
I am a fan of open srouce tools. My definition of open source is restricted to free. It has always been a challenge for developers to get tools that are free or easily available and are light-weight enough to run on home computers or laptops. Someone taking SCBCD exam does not have to use textpad or notepad so that he/she can learn. At the same time IDEs (VAJ, WSAD and JBuilder in particular) tend to be so heavy that they make everything slow on my machine. I may be going off the topic but Java vendors need to learn from Microsoft in this area.
Anyways, I use eclipse with lomboz plugin ( and Lomboz plugin allows you to configure any server with eclipse. I use JBoss (working on J2EE RI to make it work with eclipse) for EJBs and tomcat for web application and MySQL as database (there is also an eclipse plugin for MySQL but I do not know the name, check out eclipse's plugin page). This combination works like a champ on my P3 with 384MB RAM. Tools provide me with enough features that I can prepare for the exam while giving me flexibility to manualize (as opposed to automize) the tasks I need to get my hands dirty.
Any one who has used J2EE RI and/or cloudscape with eclipse?
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