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Any other SCBCD from Switzerland?

Davide Zanichelli
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I know just another one... I can be counted for Italy and Brasil too!
Davide Zanichelli
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oops... i can count for South Korea too!!
Max Uustalu
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At least one from France
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Valentin Crettaz
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I'm from Switzerland, too


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Thang Tran Vinh
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Do you guys know where Vietnam is?
I am from there and I am SCBCD certificated too.
Cheers,
Thang
Davide Zanichelli
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hi Thang, I was even there once... but I cannot count for Vietnam too...
So we are three in Switzerland up to now, and Valentin is a VIP here ! are you from the french part? I'm from Zug...
Valentin Crettaz
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I'm form the french part, Lausanne to be precise. We could meet sometimes around a good
Davide Zanichelli
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sure... i'll let you know i come there (once went for an interview in geneva... ). or let me know if you come to zurich or surroundings. now i've added my email!
HS Thomas
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Switzerland, Italy and Brazil
South Korea too ?
How come ?
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Pradeep bhatt
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First I thought it was a European Union but later..


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Davide Zanichelli
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born in south korea, grew up in italy (and for a while in brasil..), and living in switzerland... in future who knows
Al Newman
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Originally posted by Valentin Crettaz:
I'm form the french part, Lausanne to be precise. We could meet sometimes around a good


Do they have good in Switzerland? And if so, do they allow furriners in to drink it? I tried for a work permit a couple years ago (for a job in Bern) and got the distinct impression that furriners aren't wanted.....


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Davide Zanichelli
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As far as i know, looking for a job right now in Switzerland you have some chances if you are from EU, almost no chance otherwise. And even if you are already in Switzerland, that's not the best moment...
Valentin Crettaz
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Do they have good in Switzerland?
We sure do have good (imported) ones
If you want to drink real beer, you might consider going to Belgium or Germany.
And if so, do they allow furriners in to drink it? I tried for a work permit a couple years ago (for a job in Bern) and got the distinct impression that furriners aren't wanted.....
Yeah, that's what I hate about Switzerland, people here are too conservative and traditionalist... Maybe one of the reason we are still not in the EU which is not a bad thing anyway by looking at what is happening there... And no, you won't make me open that debate anyway
Al Newman
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Originally posted by Valentin Crettaz:
Do they have good in Switzerland?
We sure do have good (imported) ones
If you want to drink real beer, you might consider going to Belgium or Germany.

The UK isn't bad, nor is the Czech Republic either. But I prefer Belgian brews myself. Kreik, Trappist Ale, and Hoegaarden. Mmmmm!
Originally posted by Valentin Crettaz:
And if so, do they allow furriners in to drink it? I tried for a work permit a couple years ago (for a job in Bern) and got the distinct impression that furriners aren't wanted.....
Yeah, that's what I hate about Switzerland, people here are too conservative and traditionalist... Maybe one of the reason we are still not in the EU which is not a bad thing anyway by looking at what is happening there... And no, you won't make me open that debate anyway

Swiss Mobile badly needed my skills (Tibco specialists are like diamonds in Switzerland these days). But twas not to be.....
I liked Bern and could easily visualize living there. But US citizens are too much of a risk it would seem....
[ September 03, 2003: Message edited by: Alfred Neumann ]
Valentin Crettaz
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I liked Bern and could easily visualize living there. But US citizens are too much of a risk it would seem....
Having myself gone through the US Visa application hell (pre-911 period of course, now it is almost impossible to get a US visa), I can assure you that the other way is not much better either Anyway, they let me come in.
It's weird that your application has been refused. Usually, in the IT world, especially for Swisscom Mobile, things get easier due to the tight connection between them and the Swiss Government. Anyway...
[ September 03, 2003: Message edited by: Valentin Crettaz ]
Al Newman
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Originally posted by Valentin Crettaz:
I liked Bern and could easily visualize living there. But US citizens are too much of a risk it would seem....
Having myself gone through the US Visa application hell (pre-911 period of course, now it is almost impossible to get a US visa), I can assure you that the other way is not much better either Anyway, they let me come in.
It's weird that your application has been refused. Usually, in the IT world, especially for Swisscom Mobile, things get easier due to the tight connection between them and the Swiss Government. Anyway...

Valentin, the informal word on the street is that Switzerland is virtually impossible except for French and maybe German nationals. A friend of mine from Singapore was turfed out some years ago as well. I think perhaps Swisscom Mobile didn't want to go through the trouble, as it may have been a three-month process or more. I don't think they even bothered to make the application at all.
The next time Switzerland looks at it's extremely low growth rate they may want to consider the cost of excluding auslanders with skills they need.
[ September 03, 2003: Message edited by: Alfred Neumann ]
Valentin Crettaz
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Alfred,
No need to convince me, I perfectly agree with your views
Otherwise, you may just as well find yourself a Swiss wife and there you come
Al Newman
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Switzerland? There is a chance because the Swiss answer CV's and even bring you in for an interview. Culturally open, legally shut.
France? No chance. Io non parlez Francais va bene, and I've sent many CV's with nary an answer.
The Low countries are very open, and I've worked in Italy twice. Germany somewhat less so. I have an impression that Scandinavia is open but they supply most of their own demand.
A Swiss wife? Any swiss miss can do better than me. You know the joke about shaving a dog's rear and teaching it to walk backward? I'm nearly that ugly...
Davide Zanichelli
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I didn't get where are you from? And especially, which citizenship do you have?
Al Newman
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Davide, I'm a US citizen with permanent residence in the UK.
BTW, the most recent ads I see from Switzerland specify that applicants must
have Swiss citizenship or existing permission to work in Switzerland. The authorities may have made the process much more difficult recently.....
Something of a trend apparently. The US is dropping the yearly limit on H1B visas and the UK is cracking down lately it seems.
Davide Zanichelli
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Alfred, do you ever check your private messages?
Yassine Lajmi
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I can count for France and Tunisia !


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raphael Bereh
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Yap,
Ever heard of Burkina - Faso ?
Well I count for Burkina - Faso and Ireland !
A SCBCD in Burkina - Faso ! That's cool !


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