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SCBCD vs. IBM Certification

Bill Dornbush

Joined: Jul 26, 2003
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Can anyone comment on how the Sun SCBCD certification compares to the IBM Certified Solution Developer?
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v giri
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IBM Certified Solution Developer exam needs exam 286 besides SCJP (or CIW). This exam is primarily focused on web application development and has no EJBs. It is Enterprise Developer Certification delves deep into EJBs - through exams 484 and Websphere development through 287.
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Pradeep bhatt
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Sun certification are independent of servers whereas IBMs will be based on IBM products.

Theodore Casser
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To build on what v giri said, it's really a difference between generalization and specialization. The IBM exam (I took 483, but I imagine 484 is much the same) is a general J2EE exam - it covers the concepts, but doesn't go too in depth into any portion of the material as it needs to cover the whole of the enterprise edition.
From having taken (and, lamentably, failed) the SCBCD, the Sun exam is concentrated on the EJB portion of the code. Sun can do this, since they have a seperate exam for the web components, and it allows for more exacting questioning.
Now, as for which will benefit you more, this is a value question that generally, only you (and perhaps your employer) can answer. The IBM Solution Developer certificate is certainly useful to have if you're using IBM products. Most of the certs involved in that - IBM's UML (486), J2EE (483/484) and Sun's SCPJ2 - are general enough that they'd apply to any job... but the certificate for WebSphere, which involves installing, tuning and administrating WebSphere, probably only benefits if you're working in a shop that uses Big Blue products. On the other hand, Sun's certificate is as 'vendor neutral' as it can be for the technology (as in, not depending on any given appserver), so as a more general proof of potential ability to leverage the technology.
Hope that helps, even if it's a bit verbose.

Theodore Jonathan Casser
SCJP/SCSNI/SCBCD/SCWCD/SCDJWS/SCMAD/SCEA/MCTS/MCPD... and so many more letters than you can shake a stick at!
Sivasundaram Umapathy
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A better combination would be like the certification model.A set of vendor-neutral certs plus a specialisation in your app server.

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