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Should I go for SBCD1.3..?

Murtuza Bohri

Joined: Jun 24, 2004
Posts: 2

I have 4 yrs of experience in IT and mainly Java Technologies.

I have completed SCJP (Java 1.2)on Feb 2001 with 93%.

I have worked on Web Applications so I am comfortable with JAVA, JSP, Servlets, Struts and OO concepts.

I thought of doing Certification on SCWCD but I thought that Since I am Comfortable with Technologies required in Web Application? I should go for something new which I am less aware of.

I am thinking of having SCBCD. I don't have Experience of EJB should I go for it and right now there are no signs that in another 3 to 6 months I will work on EJB's.

Is it recommended to go for SCBCD with the history I have? :roll:
james edwin
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Joined: Nov 22, 2001
Posts: 393

It's not necessary to have previous exp or hands on EJB,but if you are having it helps. Otherwise you can start preparing for SCBCD and install one application server,then side-by-side you can prepare for exams and have some hands on exp. on EJB also.

[ June 25, 2004: Message edited by: james edwin ]

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Joined: Dec 01, 2003
Posts: 51
Hello Murtaza,
Despite writing SCBCD exam there is another issue also. This is a very hot topic wether to go for SCBCD 1.3 or wait for SCBCD 1.4 (which has not been announced yet).
SCBCD 1.3 is based on EJB 2.0 and it is completely over hauled in EJB 3.0
It is said, EJB 3.0 has borrowed many concepts from Spring and Hibernate. So, many people suggest to spend time on Spring or Hibernate instead of EJB 2.0

I am personally preparing for current version of SCBCD 1.3 (based on EJB 2.0) and my decision is based on following facts

Unless I know EJB 2.0 I cannot find what is bad in EJB 2.0 and what is good in EJB 3.0
Since I am still looking for my first job, it will show the prospective employer that I am aware of the technologies and trends AND it will add a buzzword to my resume (not kidding)

Since you wana learn EJB, I would recommend you to MUST have an overview of current version and understand technology (not necessary to write exam) so that you know this technology and then go for Hibernate and Spring.
[ June 26, 2004: Message edited by: Muzammil Koker ]
Nicholas Cheung
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Joined: Nov 07, 2003
Posts: 4982
In fact, SCBCD 1.4 will not be released in a short time, as SCBCD 1.3 just released for around 10 months!

Personally, I just think, if you are currently working with EJB 2.0, then you may simply go for SCBCD 1.3. In fact, especially for large companies, even people keep saying that Spring and Hibernate, they wont consider using open source projects that easily.

I am currently working with a banking project. As you know, Struts is very popular nowadays, however, the bank does not wanna using Struts. Instead, they develop their own MVC module!

Thus, I cant see any problems for taking the current SCBCD exam, especially we dont know when the new exam released.


SCJP 1.2, OCP 9i DBA, SCWCD 1.3, SCJP 1.4 (SAI), SCJD 1.4, SCWCD 1.4 (Beta), ICED (IBM 287, IBM 484, IBM 486), SCMAD 1.0 (Beta), SCBCD 1.3, ICSD (IBM 288), ICDBA (IBM 700, IBM 701), SCDJWS, ICSD (IBM 348), OCP 10g DBA (Beta), SCJP 5.0 (Beta), SCJA 1.0 (Beta), MCP(70-270), SCBCD 5.0 (Beta), SCJP 6.0, SCEA for JEE5 (in progress)
Roger Chung-Wee
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Joined: Sep 29, 2002
Posts: 1683
There is no point in doing SCBCD if you will not be using EJBs - this is a waste of time and money.

If you go for SCWCD 1.4, you will learn new things that should make you a better web component developer.

And depending on the kind of work that you are doing/are likey to be doing, other certifications should be considered, eg SCDJWS.

SCJP 1.4, SCWCD 1.3, SCBCD 1.3
Amitava Basu

Joined: May 11, 2004
Posts: 4
Hi Murtuza,

I am having exactly same problem as yours. I have decided to go for both SCBCD & SCWCD. It seems to me that SCWCD comparatively easier than SCBCD because I worked with Servlets and JSPs for more than 4 years. I am right now preparing for SCBCD and planing to give the exam before end of July. I am following HF EJB and the spec. finding it little time consuming and complex than expected. But without any proper preparation I scored almost 80% in SCWCD mock exams.
I am still finding it difficult to score 65% in mock SCBCD after one and half month of preparation. EJB is solely dependent on EJB concept than pure Java Concept. And you really need to spend time and energy to grab it completely.
Murtuza Bohri

Joined: Jun 24, 2004
Posts: 2

Thanks all of you for your response.This will help me in taking decision.

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