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David Weitzman
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Joined: Jul 27, 2001
Posts: 1365
The topic of "Why does JavaRanch use UBB" has come up many a time.
Reasons for no change seem to be as follows:
1) Has all the features we want.
2) It would be difficult to change now.
Reasons for change include;
1) UBB is slow
2) UBB is inflexible
I noticed that the phpBB site has tools to convert data from several forums, including UBB 6.x. It also seems to have all the features of UBB. I don't know anything about phpBB's speed, but it's in the top 10 downloads at sourceforge.net, so I assume it is constantly improving -- free of charge at that. I don't know if the JavaRanch ISP supports the necessary technologies, but if it does it might be worthwhile to experiment a little and see if phpBB is a viable alternative.
Marcus Green
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Joined: Sep 14, 1999
Posts: 2813
phpBB is very nice, GPL etc etc, but I think one of the underlying questions often is "If JSP/Servlets are the way forward why is JavaRanch not using that technology". If a php system was used people would still be asking a similar question.
Whilst very nice, I'm not sure that phpBB offers any overwhealming advantages.
Marcus


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David Weitzman
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Joined: Jul 27, 2001
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I'm a bit angry at UBB because it wouldn't let me post example html code in a non-html forum (go figure), and then still wouldn't let me post the same code using entities for < and >. It was the HTML and JavaScript forum at that.
There have also been various problems in the past like changing what [[code]] tag does to its contents. I expect that would be easy with an open source project.
Also it isn't clear from the UBB manual the extent to which it supports templates. Judgeing from the 90k source of the saloon front page (which is too big to view in Notepad), much could be done with efficient use of CSS. While modifying some sort of UBB template to use CSS after the fact might be difficult, phpBB seems to be built from the ground up with xhtml in mind.
More importantly, searching with phpBB is 10,000% faster. Just go to their community page and search for "phpBB". 220 pages of results in a flash. UBB can't even dream of that. That alone is worth it.
 
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