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Appeared SCBCD5.0 Beta on Saturday

Sachin Gurjar
Greenhorn

Joined: Feb 23, 2004
Posts: 7
Dear Ranchers,

Appeared for the exam on Saturday, must say we need to have really good concentration and patience to sit for 5 hours. I was struggling to focus after 4 hours and was eager to finish.

Some of the questions were very ambiguous, and in some cases number of correct answers were more than expected. It was really difficult to decide which correct option to go for.

Number of questions were 180, I found the exam very tough. I had prepared using Mastering EJB and Specs. I must comment on the study material that you are going to use.

Please do not rely on Mastering for Entity or Persistence I would rather suggest to go for Persistence specs from Sun, agreed they are bit difficult to understand but worth.

As suggested by other exam takers, my experience is same,

1) Focus on Entities, EJB-QL (Existing features + enhancements).
2) Know annotations well.
3) You can easily get through the questions on Session beans, MDBs, Security, Exceptions, Transaction just don't ignore anything while you are studying...
4) Keep cool during exam, you have 5 hours so plan your strategy accordingly. You must finish 36 questions every hour to be in pace. Keep a watch on your pace to avoid last hour rush.
5) Don't waste time on tough questions just go ahead with the next, keep a note of those to be later if time permits.

All the best to all those appearing for it !!!

Cheers
Mahmoud Matouk
Ranch Hand

Joined: Mar 21, 2003
Posts: 41
Thanks Sachin
Shawn Michaels
Greenhorn

Joined: Nov 28, 2006
Posts: 7
I am refering mastering ejb 3.0 and ejb specs. Kindly please tell which other books i need to refer or mastering ejb 3.0 and ejb specs are enough to score good percentages in scbcd 5.0 exam.

thanks
Jianfeng Qian
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Joined: Jan 25, 2005
Posts: 83
I also use mastering ejb 3.0 and ejb specs. Does Enterprise java bean 3.0 5th will be more useful?
By now, I just finish half of mastering ejb 3.0 and begin to read ejb specs, and I schedule on 2/Jan. I may not have enough time to finish the two books.


Jianfeng Qian<br />SCJP 1.4, SCBCD 5.0(beta)
Mahmoud Matouk
Ranch Hand

Joined: Mar 21, 2003
Posts: 41
Sachin,

Were there many questions about DD equivelents to annotations ???

and persistence.xml too, were there many questions about it?
Sachin Gurjar
Greenhorn

Joined: Feb 23, 2004
Posts: 7
I started my studies with Mastering EJB 3.0, I found it very useful to get aquainted with the concepts. You have to study only first 12 chapters if you are focussing only for certification. In addition with this I used specs(EJB core and persistence).

I am not aware about other books but I will insist to refer to a good for Entity and Persistence, Mastering EJB is not enough at all for this !!! Rest everything you can find from this book. Also for Exceptions don't rely on this. I wonder why Mastering EJB is missing an important area like Exception Handling in EJB3.0

You can finish 12 chapters of Mastering easily in 10 days, and then use rest of the time to study Entity, persistence and Exceptions.

For transactions refer to Headfirst EJB, though its older version but transactions have not changed much in EJB 3.0 except addition of annotations. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

It is good to know relationship between elements in DD and annotations and overriding rules. I would suggest to spend more time of annotation than DD. Lastly you need to have good understanding of persistence.xml

To maintain the confidentiality and quality standards of this certification I can't tell you in depth about the questions but I will definately add my experiences so that those preparing can make efforts in right direction.

Hope this helps !

All the best to you all
Jianfeng Qian
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Joined: Jan 25, 2005
Posts: 83
Thanks! Sachin.
Your suggestions will be very helpful.
I have read 10 chapters of Mastering EJB 3.0, I will give up the chapters ater 12
I have another question :
Does the beta have some question about EJB 2.1 ?
Can I skip the chapters of ejb 3.0 specs such as Chapter 7 to Chapter 11,Since they concerned EJB 2.1 ?
As followed :
Chapter 7. Client View of an EJB 2.1 Entity Bean
Chapter 8 EJB 2.1 Entity Bean Component Contract for Container-Managed Persistence
Chapter 9.EJB QL: EJB 2.1 Query Language for Container-Managed Persistence Query Methods
Chapter 10 EJB 2.1 Entity Bean Component Contract for Bean-Managed Persistence
Chapter 11.EJB 1.1 Entity Bean Component Contract for Container-Managed Persistence
Deepak Sharma
Greenhorn

Joined: Nov 27, 2006
Posts: 2
############################
Please concentrate on

Persistence, Entity Beans, Query Language,Transactions (50% of Questions)
Session bean (15%)
Message driven Bean (15%)
Security (6%)
Others(14%)

Please have good understanding on basic concepts. Concentrate more on Entity Beans/Peristance, Query Language and Transactions

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Just want to cross check here, do Entity Beans here correspond to Entity Beans in 2.1 (CMP and BMP) Or entities defined by Persistence API?

-Deepak
Sachin Gurjar
Greenhorn

Joined: Feb 23, 2004
Posts: 7
Hi Jianfeng,

In fact in Chaper 11, you can skip around 25-35 pages and read only part relevant to EJB exam. Read Headfirst EJB book for prior version for Security. It is oriented more towards exam and I believe it covers Security details in good depth. Mastering doesn't cover it in enough depth for exam.

I believe you can skip the Chapter 7 to 11 from Specs and read sections relevant only to EJB3.0 But some of the concepts in EJB3.0 are based on prior versions so just browse through once. Try to get in depth information about BMP, CMP and EJB-QL.
Sachin Gurjar
Greenhorn

Joined: Feb 23, 2004
Posts: 7
Originally posted by Deepak(Lucky) Sharma:
############################
Please concentrate on

Persistence, Entity Beans, Query Language,Transactions (50% of Questions)
Session bean (15%)
Message driven Bean (15%)
Security (6%)
Others(14%)

Please have good understanding on basic concepts. Concentrate more on Entity Beans/Peristance, Query Language and Transactions

############################

Just want to cross check here, do Entity Beans here correspond to Entity Beans in 2.1 (CMP and BMP) Or entities defined by Persistence API?

-Deepak


It does correspond to entities defined by Persistence API, the prior version exam covers more about Entity bean so there isn't much in this exam. Still I would recommend to have at least basic understanding of Entity Beans.
Balaji Londhe
Ranch Hand

Joined: May 02, 2006
Posts: 100
Thanks... Just one more query...
What are the topics that we can pick from Head First EJB?


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Ashish Garg
Ranch Hand

Joined: Jul 04, 2004
Posts: 68
Thanks Sachin for your inputs it helped a lot to plan different action items.
Since I haven�t appeared for any beta exam just curious to know does the questions in beta exams also contains the suggestion that out of 4 option 2 are correct, since this is the case in the regular exam and I find it helpful in many cases to narrowing down the options. Please let me know.

-Ashish Garg


SCJP1.2, SCWCD1.4, SCBCD1.3, SCBCD 5.0, SCDJWS, SCEA, IBM Certified SOA Associate
Shawn Michaels
Greenhorn

Joined: Nov 28, 2006
Posts: 7
thanks a lot sachin and everbody for their valuable comments.
Sachin Gurjar
Greenhorn

Joined: Feb 23, 2004
Posts: 7
From Headfirst you can study following topics.
1) Transaction
2) Exceptions
3) Security Management
4) Message Driven Beans (Only conceptual part and their lifecycle, information about clients and type of subscribers supported.)

Make sure you refer to corresponding annotations for the new version. This will be solid enough to answer any questions in this area.

Beta exam is exactly similar to any other certifications offered by Sun, you are asked to choose number of answers from Check box or option box. But still it is tough enough due to several ambiguous answers.

Apply ellimination process, that is discard the wrong options first and then amongst the best possible answers you can make a choice.
Amit K Srivastava
Greenhorn

Joined: May 16, 2006
Posts: 23
Thanks everyone and specially Sachin for a good analysis. I also feel that Mastering EJB is not sufficient to cover certain aspects of SCBCD 5.0. For topics like- Persistence, Entity Beans, EJB Query Language (which comprises 50% of Questions) I would recommend EJB 3.0 by Orielly.

Cheers!!
Amit Srivastava..
Rajkumar Saboo
Ranch Hand

Joined: Feb 14, 2003
Posts: 43
Hi Sachin,

Thanks for this great updates.

From Mastering EJB, which chapters are worth to read ?

As I have just started to prepare for the exam. ( 12 day to go)

Mostly will try to cover Specs. specially Persitence API.

Anybody have done any analysis on 3 set of specs. Like which chapters should read and which are we can skip.


Thanks & regards,<br />Raj<br /> <br />SCJP, SCBCD, SCEA Part 1
Marc Liu
Greenhorn

Joined: Dec 12, 2006
Posts: 1
I took the exam last Friday (Dec. 15). Yes, I felt very tired after finished the exam. I finished the exam about 4.5 hours with 180 questions.

I used ejb30 specs (core, simplified and persistence) and Mastering 3.0. Mostly importance is the ejb30 specs. In the ejb30 core spec, I completely ignored the ejb entity bean and the distributed interoperability parts.

Do not confusing with the term:
Entity bean ---- ejb2.1
Entity ---- ejb3.0 (POJO, not bean)

Cheers,
Marc
 
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