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SCJD or SCWCD,which is better

ikea63ca
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Joined: Aug 29, 2001
Posts: 3
There are too cetificates, SCJD and SCWCD. Which is good for finding a job in Java.
Tony Alicea
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I'm sorry that I can't be that categorical in my answer but "It Depends"...
The (old) Developer Certification has emphasis on (among other topics), GUI development.
As we all know, Server Side Java does not. Also this area of Java seems to be "hotter" in the industry right now. That is, Web Application Development seems to be in more demand. Not to my surprise, by the way.
My $0.02


Tony Alicea
Senior Java Web Application Developer, SCPJ2, SCWCD
Tony Alicea
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ikea63ca:
Welcome to JavaRanch!
I know you will benefit from your (and the other friendly guys's participation) here.
However, we have a username policy which is explained in this link:
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Simon Brown
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Just to take a different spin ... although it is true that the SCJD is GUI based, it does (I feel) test your skills in other areas, namely :
- ability to read, understand and translate requirements
- ability to design in a coherent and informed manner (you have to document *why* you did things)
- ability to code, document and structure your code
- ability to think around (and solve) complex problems such as thread-safety, user experience, distributed computing (whether it be RMI or sockets)
The reason that I bring these up is that they are all very valid in the web app environment too and if anything, the two certifications compliment each other. Experience in these areas will (IMHO) also help to get you a job as it helps to show that you are a more "rounded" developer.
In fact thinking about it, shouldn't the SCWCD be called the SCWC Progammer?
Just my �0.02 worth (I'm in the UK!)
Cheers
Simon
Ashik Uzzaman
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Joined: Jul 05, 2001
Posts: 2370

Well, my personal idea is that Sun is promoting SCWCD in lieu of SCJD...may be as a result of job market study. As in my country taking SCJD exam is problematic in ASEC whereas u can give SCWCD any time.
Anyway, sheriffs, would u like to explain me what "My $0.02" stands for...i don't know and m curious...

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Ashik Uzzaman
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Muhammad Mansoor
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i agree with you Tony Alicea
also the Server Side market has more targeted audience as compared to SCJD market
 
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