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Just passed SCWCD - 88%

Michael Gavryuchkov
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And found JWeb+ and SCWCD@Whiz pretty close to the real one. I mean the real one is simpler but not much.
JWebPlus is little bit more difficult than @Whiz but @Whiz has better explanations. I think they both make a good couple and supplement each other.


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Chintan Rajyaguru
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Congratulations!!


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peter parker
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hey michael,
congrats on passing ! what book did you use ?
do you think JWebPlus is a good enough mock
exam to use without buying JWhiz ?
-PP
Michael Gavryuchkov
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Originally posted by peter parker:
hey michael,
congrats on passing ! what book did you use ?
do you think JWebPlus is a good enough mock
exam to use without buying JWhiz ?
-PP

Thanks!
Books:
1. The main one: JAVA Developer's Guide to Servlets and JSP
2. Additionally, mostly as references: 2 O'Reilly books about servlets and JSP
Mock exams: I think if I used only JWebPlus I would get lower score, though passed
[ January 14, 2002: Message edited by: Michael Gavryuchkov ]
Michael Gavryuchkov
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And I am looking for a job. In case anyone of you folks or your employers have something for a fresh SCWCD please take a look at my resume.
Thanks a lot again for congratulations.
Rajul King
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Congrats....
Madhav Lakkapragada
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Congrats.
Good luck with that job search.
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jawwad ahmed
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Congratulations........
Harpreet Hira
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Congrats
Ashik Uzzaman
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Hi Michael, congrats man...veru good score!
I saw ur resume, u r a pretty experienced person. I m sure u'll get a nice job...
Any desection of the exam? And how much did u score in the mocks?


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Michael Gavryuchkov
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Originally posted by Ashik uzzaman:
Any desection of the exam? And how much did u score in the mocks?

All the folks before me wrote everything right - the exam is very similar to the mocks.
This is my results in the mocks:
JWhiz from the Overall Report:
1. Practice Test 1 - 64%
2. Practice Test 2 - 55.93%
3. Diagnostic Test - 81%
4. Final Test - 81%
5. Practice Test 1 - 100%
6. Practice Test 2 - 89.83%
7. Diagnostic Test - 98.31%
8. Final Test - 98.31%
as you see I did each test twice.
JWebPlus - I don't have this exact figures, I didn't do them twice but the average score was about 80%
One of the best advice I've got from the creators of the tests is to read the explanations even if you answered right.
About the real test: can one use apostrophies in JSP pages or only double quotes are allowed? - that wasn't the actual question but this is the essential of it.
Poonam Akash
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Congratulations Michael on such a good score...
Did there came the long coded quests. too?and what abt API...did you learn that all or just go through some notes?
Bye,
Poonam.


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Axel Janssen
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congrats
& wish You a decent job.
[ January 15, 2002: Message edited by: Axel Janssen ]
Michael Gavryuchkov
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Originally posted by Poonam Akash:
Did there came the long coded quests. too?

one or two, not more

what abt API...did you learn that all or just go through some notes?

just books mentioned above and the mock exams and OF COURSE working on a project which used all this stuff
Poonam Akash
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Thanx Michael 4 your reply!
I will also appear in exam next week so if you got any last minute tip then plz let me know.
Bye,
faiza haris
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congrats!!!
;how much did u study for the design patterns? and frm where?
Also please tell us about JavaBeans ...like where you studied it from and give some helpful tips!
G'luck!
faiza
Michael Gavryuchkov
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Originally posted by Poonam Akash:
I will also appear in exam next week so if you got any last minute tip then plz let me know.

Best of luck with your exam!
A last minute tip: when you read a code example - always pay attention whether the servlet implements SingleThreadModel
Michael Gavryuchkov
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Originally posted by faiza haris:
congrats!!!
;how much did u study for the design patterns? and frm where?
Also please tell us about JavaBeans ...like where you studied it from and give some helpful tips!
G'luck!
faiza

JavaBeans - nothing more than the book I mentioned earlier in the topic. Also the mock exams are somewhat educating.
Design patterns - it seems the exam covers only the limited number of patterns:
1. Business Delegate
2. Value Object
3. Session Facade
4. MVC
5. Data Access Object
As I said the mock exams are educating themselves. Also, if you read only a couple of pages in Core J2EE Patterns about each of them and understand their UML diagram - you are all set.
[ January 15, 2002: Message edited by: Michael Gavryuchkov ]
Michael Gavryuchkov
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One more tip. Here is the list of things I take with me to exams:
two photo IDs
1. Water+Red Bull
2. Chewing gum
3. Chocolat bar
4. Ear plugs
5. White paper
6. Calculator
7. Pen and pencil
8. Timer
faiza haris
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Calculator???
Michael Gavryuchkov
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Originally posted by faiza haris:
Calculator???

Oh yeah! This was needed for SCJP badly. There were pretty many questions where calculator would come in handy. Like shift operations.
Fei Ng
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Congratulations
They let u use that?? hehehehe.
Jim Hall
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Congrats
I thought the rule was one sheet of paper and pencil/pen, and that's it. I can't believe your test center would allow the use of a calculator. I don't think Sun would approve. If Sun did why wouldn't they implement it into the test interface, such as click here for popup calculator. Most of the math questions are very simple anyway, so it is not necessary.
Since many of today's calculators are mini computers capable of holding loads of textual information, the possibility for someone to use this for cheating exists. Not that you did, but the possibility does exist and would eventually be exploited.
[ January 16, 2002: Message edited by: Jim Hall ]
Allan Moster
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Congratulations Michael. Nice Score. I noticed there's an SCJP2 logo on your resume. Are you allowed to put that in the web? Somebody might steal it
Ashik Uzzaman
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Calculator is not allowed i know...but that is not a major issue though....
Michael Gavryuchkov
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Originally posted by Ashik uzzaman:
Calculator is not allowed i know...but that is not a major issue though....

Thanks for enlightening me. It might not be a good idea.
Anyway, you don't think I passed the exam maliciously using calculator, do you?
Michael Gavryuchkov
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Originally posted by Allan Moster:
Congratulations Michael. Nice Score. I noticed there's an SCJP2 logo on your resume. Are you allowed to put that in the web? Somebody might steal it

I had a special concern about putting the logo on my resume and intentionally sent this question to the person I received it from:
==============
> The rules from the Educational Services site state that: "Use of the logo is
> restricted to the candidate's business card and stationery"
>
> I am not sure I completely understand this. The question is: am I allowed to
> place the logo in my resume in Word format sent via email? And may I put the
> logo in my HTML resume placed on my web-page?
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and the answers was:
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Yes, you may use it on your resume, cards and stationery. The key is to not
distort the logo in any way per the logo website guidelines.
==============
Besides, I gave them a call with the same question and they say they don't find any reasons not to.
About stealing the logo from my resume. How can I prevent it? And why should I prevent it? Sun doesn't state anything regarding this issue. If they do please let me know (links, quotes).
Besides, as soon as I land a job I am going to take the resume away
[ January 16, 2002: Message edited by: Michael Gavryuchkov ]
Michael Gavryuchkov
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There is one more tip. Maybe I am going to sound too trivial, but anyway I haven't seen such an advice before.
So, here it is: don't rely only on reading. The mock exams are the greatest thing to increase your score. They show you at least what kind of questions to expect. Not to mention their educating factor.
Reda Mokrane
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Congratulations Michael, Nice Score
and thanks for the advice.
[ January 17, 2002: Message edited by: Reda Mokrane ]
Ricardo Cortes
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Put your resume in PDF format. That's what I did for the SCJP logo...
Originally posted by Michael Gavryuchkov:
About stealing the logo from my resume. How can I prevent it? And why should I prevent it? Sun doesn't state anything regarding this issue. If they do please let me know (links, quotes).
Besides, as soon as I land a job I am going to take the resume away

[ April 27, 2002: Message edited by: Ricardo Cortes ]

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