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Vedhas Pitkar
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Joined: Jan 27, 2001
Posts: 445
Hi all ,
Just came from the exam.It's not that difficult .If you already are SCWCD then the exam hasnt changed much except for the EL & JSTL part.My advice to Beta testers:
Do session management
Practice all possible combinations of EL
Some elements in web.xml
Life cycles(Detail)
Core JSTL tags
I referred the SCWCD Study kit,JSP2.0,J2EE 1.4 tutorial(some questions were direct copy-paste from the tutorial)
Will let you know more when I remember...
Ali Ragi
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Joined: Dec 10, 2003
Posts: 60
Thank you, Vedhas Pitkar. You are a nice guy, like many others!
More questions. Is there any API question, like Simple Tag API question?, any questions about .tld file? how about JSP event listener? Your help will be appreciated.
Nicholas Cheung
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Joined: Nov 07, 2003
Posts: 4982
Hi Ali,

Is there any API question, like Simple Tag API question?

No. Unlike the old exam, the new exam tends to ask questions that are not too direct. Most Qs required us to understand the underlying concepts, rather than memerizing APIs.

any questions about .tld file? how about JSP event listener?

In my exam, only 1-2 Qs are about tld file. I think it is not the focus of the exam. Also, there are only a few Qs about listener, some of them are about the deployment descriptor, and require us to identify the correct listener for applications.
Nick.


SCJP 1.2, OCP 9i DBA, SCWCD 1.3, SCJP 1.4 (SAI), SCJD 1.4, SCWCD 1.4 (Beta), ICED (IBM 287, IBM 484, IBM 486), SCMAD 1.0 (Beta), SCBCD 1.3, ICSD (IBM 288), ICDBA (IBM 700, IBM 701), SCDJWS, ICSD (IBM 348), OCP 10g DBA (Beta), SCJP 5.0 (Beta), SCJA 1.0 (Beta), MCP(70-270), SCBCD 5.0 (Beta), SCJP 6.0, SCEA for JEE5 (in progress)
Ali Ragi
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Joined: Dec 10, 2003
Posts: 60
Thanks, Nicholas Cheung! It's a great help!
Ming Li
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 28, 2004
Posts: 12
hi Vedhas,
Thanks for your advice!
Do you think is it enought for the JSTL and EL parts of the exam, if I just study the JSTL and EL parts of J2EE 1.4 tutorial ?
Kelvin Chan
Greenhorn

Joined: May 22, 2003
Posts: 26
I would say the tutorial is very good ... if you do not have a lot of time you should focus on it.
However I find myself need to refere to other books like Core JSTL and Pro JSP in order to gain a better understanding.


SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA, OCP, CISA, CISSP, PMP
rashmi date
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Joined: Nov 18, 2002
Posts: 42
Hi Vedhas,
Thanks a lot for your g8 advice.
What all i have to study fromt he JSTL tutorial.I think Life cycle part+JSTL+Custom tags....right?
please let me know as soon as you can.i am appearing for the exam on 7th.
Rashmi
SCJP 1.4
Vedhas Pitkar
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Joined: Jan 27, 2001
Posts: 445
Hi all,
Regardng the J2EE tutorial read carefully the part which mentions of exceptions to the rule(get what I mean?)
Also Tag Files & Tag handlers(Simple & Custom) are tested thoroughly.Concentrate on them.
Ming Li
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 28, 2004
Posts: 12
Thanks Vedhas, I think i got it!
Vedhas Pitkar
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Joined: Jan 27, 2001
Posts: 445
Well If i told you everything then I would be sued by Sun
Dave Knipp
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Joined: Oct 14, 2003
Posts: 146
so would all of you who took the beta scwcd compare it with the scjp 1.4 exam? It seemed to test a whole lot of concepts at once and had alot of code samples etc. Is this similar to what the new scwcd exam is like...or at least the beta? I'm planning on taking it when it becomes available, but im not sure when that is.
if anyone has any ideas that would be great,
Thanks,
Dave


SCJP 1.4, SCJD 1.4, SCWCD 1.3, SCBCD 1.3, IBM Certified Solution Developer -WebSphere Studio V5.0
Sumit Amar
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Joined: Jun 08, 2002
Posts: 180
Thanks for your input Vedhas!
And also, Certifications list of Kelvin Chan, nearly caused me to faint.


SCJP, SCWCD, OCA, OCP-DBA 9i, <a href="http://brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=2232802" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">BCIP</a>, MCP, MCAD, MCSD.NET, MCDBA, MCTS (SQL 05), MCITP (DBD, DBA)
Ali Ragi
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Joined: Dec 10, 2003
Posts: 60
...Certifications list of Kelvin Chan, nearly caused me to faint.

How much Kelvin Chan, you are earning per month/year?
 
It is sorta covered in the JavaRanch Style Guide.
 
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