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Best IDE to use for preparing for the exam

Kitty Dayal
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Joined: Jul 22, 2004
Posts: 89
Hi all,

I know this may not be the right forum. But i wanted some feedback from people who have taken WCD1.4 as to which IDE's they used to pratice for the exam. I have a 256mb RAM laptop and not gonna uograde it for some time.

Thanks a lot
-Kits
Sekhar Kadiyala
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Joined: Feb 17, 2004
Posts: 170
Textpad!
No kidding. I am serious. If you really want to learn JSPs and Servlets, please go for notepad/textpad.

Alternatively, i have little experience with WSAD and i was very comfortable working with it. Evaluation edition is free, i think.

Even Weblogic also comes with a free 1 year evluation edition. But i have no clue as how the IDE looks like

Good Luck.


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Alan Ford
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Joined: Oct 26, 2003
Posts: 107
Same situation here.

WSAD & textpad.


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Tobin Jackson
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Joined: Sep 01, 2004
Posts: 17
I'll second that. Anything more than a text editor (i'm partial to vi ) and command line is overkill for the sample code you'll write in preperation for the exam.. IMO.. And not only is it overkill, it might undermine your understanding of the nuts and bolts that you'll be tested on.

Tobin
Bryan Basham
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Joined: Apr 30, 2001
Posts: 199
I concur with Tobin, but I am partial to emacs, myself. jEdit is not bad either. http://www.jedit.org/

I also use Ant to do my builds.

I have not found an IDE that I like, but that's my own vice.

Cheers,
Bryan
Mohamad Elkadi
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Joined: Jul 10, 2004
Posts: 3
Hi
I think the best bet is to rely on powerfult text editor such as Ultra Edit V8 or 9. It saves you both time and lot of headches.
Ko Ko Naing
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I used EditPlus...


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Abdulla Mamuwala
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Joined: Jan 09, 2004
Posts: 225
Hi
I prefer JCreator LE it has got the simplicity of text editors like notepad. On the other hand it adds color to your code, which makes code writing more pleasant. You can compile your code from the command line and stick to the basic coding for servlets and JSP's. JCreator does not provide you with any kind of automated code generation and therefore you stick with the nuts and bolts.It is easy available for free, and easy to download and configure.
Nicholas Cheung
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Joined: Nov 07, 2003
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I used WSAD as it provides all functions that required for building Servlets and JSP.

You may consider to use Ecilpse instead.

Nick


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S Subramonyan
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Joined: Aug 26, 2004
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Hi Bryan, jEdit is really wonderful!

In fact, I never used any other IDE than Textpad. I had this belief that IDEs add their own APIs, and the compiled classes might not work in a different JVM as expected to work. So I always compile from command prompt. :-) But I really like this one. I am switching to jEdit!! But I am still sticking on to my compile-from-commandprompt thing.
Giju George
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I had this belief that IDEs add their own APIs, and the compiled classes might not work in a different JVM as expected to work.


Eclipse doesn't add it's own APIs. I like eclipse and there are lot of plugins available. But from an "exam point of view", i would rather use textpad. Because you will then understand what needs to be added to the code to get it working, rather than the IDE doing half of the job.
[ September 13, 2004: Message edited by: Giju George ]

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Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Giju George:
But from an "exam point of view", i would rather use textpad. Because you will then understand what needs to be added to the code to get it working, rather than the IDE doing half of the job.


Nice recommendation... Even though I use JBuilder in my work, during SCWCD preparation, I only used EditPlus...
Kitty Dayal
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Joined: Jul 22, 2004
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Hey Nicholas,

Can WSAD 5.0 be used on 256mb laptop? I know it is not recommended, but I want learn the tool and am not gonna upgrade my system any time soon.

Thanks
Kits
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Nicholas Cheung
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Can WSAD 5.0 be used on 256mb laptop? I know it is not recommended, but I want learn the tool and am not gonna upgrade my system any time soon.

I am afraid not, I guess you will experience with a super slow speed.

Nick
Kitty Dayal
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Joined: Jul 22, 2004
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Thanks all for your replies. I have continued using TextPad for my work. Its really a cool tool. Sekhar and Nicholas since u guys used WSAD 5.0 I had just one question, Can we install WSAD5.0 on a laptop with 256mb. Will it be a major performance hit OR Will it be OK?

Thanks all guys,
- Kits
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Peter Laurinec
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Joined: Sep 13, 2004
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Well in this case you can also use ConText which can be donloaded from Context site.
Also easy-to-use editor with some quite nice features


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vishwa venkat
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Joined: Nov 22, 2003
Posts: 185
I use Text pad.U can load java,jsp,html and whole variety of syntax files into that which helps to see different colors for differnt parts of the code.
Sean Gildea
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Joined: Jul 01, 2004
Posts: 81
I used WSAD for chapter 3 - hands on MVC. Had no problems


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Oneal Shaha
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Joined: Aug 11, 2004
Posts: 98
WSAD needs minimum of 512 MB RAM and if you try to run it on 256 it will really be a major performance hit. Don't try to do this... unless you have no work for the whole day...


-Oneal
 
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