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Karu Raj
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Joined: Aug 31, 2005
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hi all

I am new to this forum

I want to know how to start and where to start for exam.

I dont have any experience.

which book is the best book to start and pass the exam.
mani kanth
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Joined: Nov 11, 2005
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hi even my situation is like that before one and half month now some what ok.. first you purchase two books

1.scwcd studykit (by manning publications).
2.headfirst (by kathy,bert,..)

these two is enough.
for basic understanding go through scwcd studykit.

once you get some idea go through the headfirst books its an wonderful book for passing the exam..
all the best..
Marc Peabody
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Welcome, Karthik. On the main page of the forum you'll find links that will help you get started.


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Karu Raj
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hi Marc

do show me the exact page ?/
vipul patel
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hi Guys,

Don't Buy manning book for SCWCD.

1.scwcd studykit (by manning publications).

I bought and the book is really not good because it provides simple API manual sort of description. Not really interactive nor interesting.
Gyan Shankar
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i felt the same about the manning book.
After going thru few chapters (9 chapters)i feel its not useful for a certification exam like scwcd if you are a beginner.
Its just not clear enough for a beginner.
I wonder why people suggest that book.
Maybe they already have a lot of experience with servelts and jsp.

I went thru briefly hfsj and it looks like a huge book.
I have seen others really praise the book.
I wish authors could have left out some of the non required stuff to make the book a bit thinner.

Anyways my opinion could change once i start going thru it.


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Bert Bates
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I wish authors could have left out some of the non required stuff to make the book a bit thinner.


What?

Too many notes?
[ January 02, 2006: Message edited by: Bert Bates ]

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Gyan Shankar
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I really dont know as i havent gone thru the book yet.
I was just overwhelmed by the thickness of the book.

I wish it was thin like the scjp book but maybe the objectives require the book to be so thick.
Karu Raj
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so for beginners like me which book should i start

please let me know

i am waiting for reply since one week
Mylene Reiners
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Head First Servlets and JSP by Bryan Basham.
ISBN 0596005407

And yes, also this book could give someone "an overwhelmed feeling of thickness" - but do you want to learn Servlets and JSPs or not?
[ January 03, 2006: Message edited by: Mylene Reiners ]
Peter Sin
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Originally posted by Mylene Reiners:
Head First Servlets and JSP by Bryan Basham.
ISBN 0596005407

And yes, also this book could give someone "an overwhelmed feeling of thickness" - but do you want to learn Servlets and JSPs or not?

[ January 03, 2006: Message edited by: Mylene Reiners ]


Hand-on experience is also important. Otherwise, you will forget everything after the exam.
Mylene Reiners
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There are some hands-on exercises in HOS&J
[ January 03, 2006: Message edited by: Mylene Reiners ]
Christophe Verré
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Karthik,

Don't waste your money on Manning's book.
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vipul patel
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Guys,

Don't be scared just by looking at number of pages in Head First JSP & Servlets Book. When you will start reading it, you will actually understand why so many pages. You can complete this book in 4 weeks. (Believe Me!). It includes lot of graphics to illustrate the point and very interactive. I just started working thorugh this book last week and completed first 6 chapters.

Do all excercises & you will be web expert!
Gyan Shankar
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I have read through the HFSj once and it is awesome book for beginners
It gives you the all the concepts you need for the exam.
However i wish there were some more exercises.

The manning book has just copied stuff from the specs i think and doesnt explain things.
For beginners its a frustrating book to read. Thats my view.
Marc Peabody
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Originally posted by Karthik Rajashekaran:
hi Marc

do show me the exact page ?/


Ummm... sure. It's this page that has the links.

Look on that page for the links. They look kinda like this:
Links | FAQ | Mock Exam

We put them there to help people just like you who want to get started.
 
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