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Cleared SCWCD today 95%

Frederic Esnault
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Joined: Feb 13, 2006
Posts: 284
Hi all !

I'm really happy to announce all of you I just cleared my SCWCD today with a 95% score. My result report is quite nice to see, 100% everywhere except :
Building JSP using Tag Libraries 87%
J2EE Patterns 66%

It fits perfectly my expected weaknesses, no surprise here. I have to work again on the patterns.

My comments :
- HFSJ is definitely the best resource for the exam;
- spec reading is a must. I made a document out of servlet spec i could give you, filter and security sections are missing, i have to finish it. It may definitely help you if you don't want to make "important info extraction" i already did.
- IMPLICIT OBJECTS : both EL and JSP implicit objects must be known perfectly. You must know which type is each of them, and how to access their content.
- Tag definition in TLD files, meaning of body-content, rtexprvalue... is a must also.
- Custom tags (simple and classic) must be known, their API (Interfaces, support classes (and the interfaces they implement), the methods signatures and return type if any, the constants (EVAL_BODY_INCLUDE and so on along with the interface defining them) : well, know the Custom tags API perfectly (not hard, it's very short).
- Listeners and Filters : know how to define them, know when they are loaded, and in WHICH ORDER.
- EL evaluation is not so deeply tested, just know basics (null treatment, operators AND difference between QUOTED and NOT QUOTED vars (ie: a[b] DIFFERS from A['B'] )


My best advice for people beginning preparation is what i did : read the book HFSJ chapter by chapter and make your personnal notes out of each of them.

The "HFSJ final mock exam + 20%" rule worked for me. I got 78% at the HFSJ mock exam, and got 95% today, which makes a +17%

The Whizlabs exam simulator is a good resource. I passed the final exam of whizlabs SCWCD simulator this morning with a 92% score, which reflected my score in the real exam. JWeb+ from enthuware seems nice too, but i have no real objective opinion on this one.

Ask me if you want details or other informations.

Final word for the HFSJ book : even if you don't plan to take the exam but you have interest in servlets & Jsp, trust me: buy this book. I don't think there is a better one out there both about the contents and about the way it's organized.


SCJP 5 - SCWCD 1.4 - SCBCD 1.3 - Certification study documents/resources: http://esnault.frederic.free.fr/certification
Chandra Sagi
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Joined: May 05, 2005
Posts: 162
Congragulations buddy.

Great Score.

Cheers
Chandu
Yogesh Hingmire
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Joined: Dec 06, 2005
Posts: 61
Congratulations on the score and sharing the experience in such a wonderful manner.
radha mannava
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Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 18
Congratulations!!
Vishwas Hegde
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Joined: Oct 02, 2003
Posts: 212
Frederic,

Thats really great.....

Congrats


Regards
Vishwas
Ramasubbhu Allur Kuppusamy
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Joined: Sep 16, 2005
Posts: 120
Frederic,
Congratulations. For ranchers who have known you and your enthusiasm, your score doesn't come as a surprise. Thanks for welcoming our questions and giving detailed comments. Certainly its party time. By the way, what's your plan ahead ?


Regards,<br />Ram.<br />SCJP 1.4
Frederic Esnault
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Joined: Feb 13, 2006
Posts: 284
Thanks for such nice words. Yes it was party time yesterday, and now a little rest time as I wait for my "Head First EJB" book (just ordered yesterday). So I think you guess my plan is SCBCD now.
Ganesh.P Ram
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Joined: Dec 22, 2005
Posts: 41
Congrats Freddie!!!

I ve taken a printout of your SCWCD notes and am adding few points to that.

Waiting for your notes on Servlet Spec.


Ganesh
Richard Rex
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Joined: Sep 19, 2005
Posts: 100
Hi Frederick,

Congratulations! That was really a great job! And your notes are really substantial to everyone who is also preparing for the exam. Best luck in your carreer!


"If you fail to plan, you plan to fail."<br /> <br />Chad<br />SCJP 1.4<br />SCWCD 1.4<br />SCBCD 1.3<br />SCDJWS (next)
Mohamed Shafi
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Joined: Apr 18, 2005
Posts: 119
Gr8 score Frederic

and thanks for the tip to...


Regards,<br /> <br />Shafi.
Liyaquat Ali
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Joined: Nov 16, 2005
Posts: 156


Congratz



Excuse me while I kiss the sky (Jimi Hendrix)
preetiarvind sharma
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Joined: Nov 17, 2005
Posts: 22
Congratulations Frederic,

Thats a great score.
All the best for SCBCD


Patrick Williams
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Joined: Apr 03, 2005
Posts: 213
Congratulations Frederic! Allow me to ride your coattails to the SCBCD! ;-)


Patrick<br /> <br />SCJP/SCWCD/SCBCD/SCDJWS/SCEA<br /> <br />Currently working on:<br />SCJP 6
Chandra Sagi
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Joined: May 05, 2005
Posts: 162
Hi Frederic,

I know it would like asking too much, but could you share JSP spec summary incase you have one. I find your notes very helpful without reading the whole spec. Thanks for all your help.

Cheers
Chandu
Akshay Kiran
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Joined: Aug 18, 2005
Posts: 220
these notes are beautiful Fredric
merci beaucoup!

I'm planning to take the exam in about 20 days..anybody wants to do a group study kinda thing with me?
Frederic Esnault
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Joined: Feb 13, 2006
Posts: 284
Hi !
It wouldn't be asking too much, if I had one.

The thing is I planned to make a JSP spec summary, but when i began to read the spec with my highlighter pen in hand, i realized it was too much like a list of values, tables and so on.

I think one thing is important to know is EL values coercion algorithm (JSP 2.8), the EL implicit objects (JSP 2.7), JSP implicit objects (JSP 8.8) and maybe variable synchronization (JSP 8.9) which is not covered in HFSJ (or i missed it, but i doubt it) and which i saw in one mock exam question (but not in the real exam, but it doesn't mean you won't have question on this). About the rest, if you study correctly HFSJ, it should be enough.

Sorry i cannot help you more on this, but making a JSP spec summary would really be imo a copy/paste job, useless and boring. But you may read the specs by yourself, this may be usefull.
Chandra Sagi
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Joined: May 05, 2005
Posts: 162
Thanks for your suggestions. If I have time I would have a look at the JSP spec, else I would go with HFSJ, some of your notes and mock exams.

Thanks
Chandu
georgy jacob
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Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Posts: 53
Congrats Buddy!!! great score .Keep it up
sadasiva kumar
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Joined: Oct 30, 2003
Posts: 91
Congratulations
very good score





regards
SADASIVAKUMAR UTTI
SCJP1.4
SCWCD1.4(IN PROGRESS)


SADASIVAKUMAR UTTI, SCJP1.4
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Sue Pillai
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Joined: Nov 04, 2004
Posts: 89
Excellent score! Hearty hearty congratulations.


Sue

SCJP 1.2
SCWCD 1.4
SCBCD 5.0
Narendra Dhande
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Joined: Dec 04, 2004
Posts: 950
Congrats



Narendra Dhande
SCJP 1.4,SCWCD 1.4, SCBCD 5.0, SCDJWS 5.0, SCEA 5.0
Gannarapu Rajesh
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Joined: Mar 03, 2005
Posts: 24
Hi,

It's really great....


congratulations buddy....



Cheers,
Rajesh Gannarapu
singh santosh
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Joined: Jan 13, 2006
Posts: 136
hi ,
a really great score on such a tough exam .
Congratullations!!!

-santosh
SCJP1.4 ,SCWCD -preparing
vikas Bhi
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Joined: Jul 04, 2005
Posts: 8
Congrats Frederic

Thanks for providing sharing your notes and exam experience. I was actively looking for something like that. I am planning to take the exam in another 10 days. if you have some more suggestion do send me.


Thanks,
Vikas
Venkatesh Varadan
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Joined: Mar 21, 2006
Posts: 7
Thatz a cool score man !

HFSJ and your notes are going to pave my path towards the SCWCD.

Thanks for the details.
Selvaraj Subramanian
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Joined: Jul 15, 2005
Posts: 37
Good work Frederic & Thanks for sharing your notes...


Selvaraj.S<br />SCJP 1.4 -83%<br />SCWCD 1.4 - 85%<br />SCEA 4 Part 1(310-051) - 89%
Mani Jagathesan
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Joined: Sep 19, 2005
Posts: 33
Frederic,

Do you think the JDiscuss and J2EECertificate.com (even though it is 1.3, it is applicable) mock exams along with HFSJ will be good enough for the real exam? Or, do you suggest Whizlabs etc,?

Thanks
Oliver Rensen
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Joined: Jul 23, 2004
Posts: 109

Hi Frederic,

I have looked at your SunCertified-Web-Site, and it looks great.

But from the bottom of the main-page I can infer, that the page was created with PHP.

Why do you not use Servlets & JSP?

Are Servlets/JSP and PHP are competing or complementary technologies, or both?

I'm no web-designer, so I do not know the difference between JSP and PHP.

Regards,
Oliver
Frederic Esnault
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Joined: Feb 13, 2006
Posts: 284
Mani : I went through J2EECertificate study things, and they were quite helpful, but i wouldn't rely on them. HFSJ is very well if you work hard and read the spec to complete. I do not suggest Whizlabs simulator, but what i said is I bought it and I found it very usefull, and very close to actual exam reality. So if you can afford it, go for it. If not, stick to HFSJ & spec, and you should do it.


Oliver : Thanks for the "looks great"
You fingered the point that hurts me. My website is hosted by my ISP and it allows only php. Servlet webhosting is rare (free i mean), and i definitely don't want to pay such expensive prices just to be able to make java websites. If my ISP allowed java, maybe i would have used it.

I say only maybe, because what i used to create the site is a CMS call PHP nuke (web portal). Every functionality is already made, you just give the look and the content. For this website, I didn't want to reinvent the wheel, but just to have a place to share my study docs with you guys.

PHP and JSP are competing.

When you write PHP, you write your page with HTML as usual, and you can add some scripting exactly like JSP except JSP scriptlets are defined with <% and PHP scriptlets by <?

Both are evaluated by server and return an output html page.
S Student
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Joined: Aug 20, 2003
Posts: 2
Congratulations! Great Score!

Thanks for the tips.
Mikalai Zaikin
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Congratz !!!


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satheesh thangavel
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Joined: Feb 23, 2006
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Congrats Frederic
Abhijeet Kadam
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Joined: Sep 24, 2005
Posts: 24
Hi,,
Thanks Frederic Esnault for your valuable suggestions..for scwcd..
Regards
Abhijeet
Parthiban Surya
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Joined: Jul 14, 2005
Posts: 1
Originally posted by Frederic Esnault:
Hi all !

I'm really happy to announce all of you I just cleared my SCWCD today with a 95% score. My result report is quite nice to see, 100% everywhere except :
Building JSP using Tag Libraries 87%
J2EE Patterns 66%

It fits perfectly my expected weaknesses, no surprise here. I have to work again on the patterns.

My comments :
- HFSJ is definitely the best resource for the exam;
- spec reading is a must. I made a document out of servlet spec i could give you, filter and security sections are missing, i have to finish it. It may definitely help you if you don't want to make "important info extraction" i already did.
- IMPLICIT OBJECTS : both EL and JSP implicit objects must be known perfectly. You must know which type is each of them, and how to access their content.
- Tag definition in TLD files, meaning of body-content, rtexprvalue... is a must also.
- Custom tags (simple and classic) must be known, their API (Interfaces, support classes (and the interfaces they implement), the methods signatures and return type if any, the constants (EVAL_BODY_INCLUDE and so on along with the interface defining them) : well, know the Custom tags API perfectly (not hard, it's very short).
- Listeners and Filters : know how to define them, know when they are loaded, and in WHICH ORDER.
- EL evaluation is not so deeply tested, just know basics (null treatment, operators AND difference between QUOTED and NOT QUOTED vars (ie: a[b] DIFFERS from A['B'] )


My best advice for people beginning preparation is what i did : read the book HFSJ chapter by chapter and make your personnal notes out of each of them.

The "HFSJ final mock exam + 20%" rule worked for me. I got 78% at the HFSJ mock exam, and got 95% today, which makes a +17%

The Whizlabs exam simulator is a good resource. I passed the final exam of whizlabs SCWCD simulator this morning with a 92% score, which reflected my score in the real exam. JWeb+ from enthuware seems nice too, but i have no real objective opinion on this one.

Ask me if you want details or other informations.

Final word for the HFSJ book : even if you don't plan to take the exam but you have interest in servlets & Jsp, trust me: buy this book. I don't think there is a better one out there both about the contents and about the way it's organized.


Gr8 score and thanks for all the help u rendered..Thanks buddy
Jeffies Shah
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Joined: Mar 27, 2006
Posts: 7
Congrats Frederic !!!

Thanks a ton for the amazing notes u have shared.

All the best for ur SCBCD.


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mani kanth
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Joined: Nov 11, 2005
Posts: 57
congracts..............to my dear friend its really great score............



 
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