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bouquet and brickbats for HFSJ

Biren shah
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Joined: Apr 13, 2005
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hi all,
i thought of creating this new thread to thanks HF series kathy sierra and bryan basham and bert bates for the wonderful book HFSJ

i wanted to go for scwcd from past 2 years..
i also had a book for beginning jsp from wrox..
lots of content of that book demoralizedme..

i had very little experience for el + custom tags and everytime i would go for an online tutorial i would feel sleepy.

then i bought hfsj and everything went for a smooth ride..

i saw a lot of posts in the group regarding HFSJ beign text-book for scwcd .

so i thought of sharing my experience with HFSJ.
Everybody is praising about HF concepts and HF series.
I am also one amongh them.

i also thought of telling where they are wrong so that my favorite java authors and java book series can improve more.

first i just gave scwcd exam and while preparing i found HFSJ not par with the scjp preparation book.

Firstly there are not enough end-of-chapters bullet points.
so i had to note down the page no and the topic in a page and refer when needed.
this is very frustratin when the exam is near .

i believe HFSJ needs to organise the bullet point or notes more efficiently.

secondly i used the first indian reprint for HFSJ which has lots of problems
Bryan bashan explanationon mistakes..
http://www.coderanch.com/t/170384/java-Web-Component-SCWCD/certification/authors-HFSJ-end-chapter-mock

i really appreciate such a frank explanation and discussion..but i would like to point out that i was asked a question on variable exported by tag and i failed in it.
although in above explanation bryan told that we only need to know that a directive like that is needed thats it.

my answer for that was wrong .but no one to blame. i should read the specs regarding it.
you can learn about it from .
under the header
Declaring Tag Variables in Tag Files and also Variable Synchronization
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/JSPTags5.html

also at many places authors have written but they did not asked us..regarding the naming inconsistency ...

in a democratic world a successful opposition needs to be there for goverment otherwise people like hitler rules.

i believe HFSJ is getting over-confident at many places forgetting the hardwork done by sun people and jcp

Also workds like f**k..."wtf" are used...i understand the authors want to be very friendly and are using a specific leanring style of metacognition..but i think party some over confidence is also there...

also i saw a part of HF book for scja or may be oo..there they have shown a gal in shower and u can see she is almost naked ...

i think just as microsoft has been framed for anti-trust law for monopoly...hfsj should also be fined like that...
they have the monopoly for their content,their style..they beautiful way of explaning things..

i just want hfsj to be made more better also that novices dont get mislead by post that hfsj is enough and they should also read the specs and other online tutorials.

Any ways i am writing all things so as HF series can be made more beautiful.

p.s
latest news:

Just after passing the scwcd , i bought the HF design patterns.
And booked the HF ejb for scbcd.
IF scbcd book has any problems please tell me where can i get the latest book for HF scbcd.


Biren Shah<br />scjp 93%<br />scwcd 1.4 92%
Biren shah
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Joined: Apr 13, 2005
Posts: 107
sorry guys
there onem ore thing that i forgot to write here

there is one joke question in hfsj exam

http://www.coderanch.com/t/172602/java-Web-Component-SCWCD/certification/bouquet-brickbats-HFSJ

so all those people dont get frustrated like me at last minute looking at the mock exam.
Biren shah
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Joined: Apr 13, 2005
Posts: 107
here is the link for variable realted details ..the questions asked to me in exam and not covered in HFSJ
http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/syntax/2.0/syntaxref2013.html
 
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