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marco borsato
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what if 1 fails for exam after scjp success. i do not want to study but basically my knowledge is strong in some areas and weak in others. what is minimalistic approach to exam
Matt Kidd
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I don't see how someone could pass scjp and fail this associate exam. All the questions appear to be high-level with little to no coding. I've only just started looking at the objectives but a quick glance tells me that any college graduate who took algorithms, an advance oop course, and a software engineering course that covered UML should be able to take this exam and pass with a day of study.
Nicholas Cheung
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I don't see how someone could pass scjp and fail this associate exam. All the questions appear to be high-level with little to no coding.

SCJP focus on Core Java only, and thus, one who can pass SCJP does not necessarily means he knows J2EE, J2ME, Web Services or other areas well.

Thus, you still have to read a lot in order to pass the exam.

Nick


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Ko Ko Naing
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Of course, there is at least a certain amount of possibility that an SCJP might fail SCJA exam, if he/she does not know much about the various Java-related technologies. He/she needs to know many things that are related to Java or Web technologies in general to be able to pass SCJA exam.

So it is even a challenge for SCJPs...


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marco borsato
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certainly challenfe cuz dont know the qustions but yes i dont know how much is required to know. for sure if it is possible i would like to study max 5 hours before exam
Nicholas Cheung
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certainly challenfe cuz dont know the qustions but yes i dont know how much is required to know. for sure if it is possible i would like to study max 5 hours before exam

I will spend around 2 weeks, 3-4 hours per day, to prepare this exam even I took other exams that covered most of the areas in SCJA.

I just wonder, if you do not want to spend time on studying it, why you take the test? What is the meaning of failing an exam without study? Of course, if you pass the exam without study, you can tell other proudly.

As Bert said, SCJP holders should be able to pass the exam with no doubts, however, taking an exam is one of the ways to learn, and thus, you will definitely learn something during the study path. If you learn nothing, it is better not to waste time on certain exams.

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marco borsato
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I will spend around 2 weeks, 3-4 hours per day, to prepare this exam even I took other exams that covered most of the areas in SCJA.


that is 6 hours. ok i am not going for high score this time so i can do it in 5 hours


I just wonder, if you do not want to spend time on studying it, why you take the test? What is the meaning of failing an exam without study? Of course, if you pass the exam without study, you can tell other proudly.

well taking the exam is a learning experience on its own. failing without study will tell me what i need to study better. i am not really interested in telling other people that i did not study. quite the opposite. i think it is better to tell people that i had to study for years which makes the certificate more impressive


As Bert said, SCJP holders should be able to pass the exam with no doubts, however, taking an exam is one of the ways to learn, and thus, you will definitely learn something during the study path. If you learn nothing, it is better not to waste time on certain exams.


learning is something that has exaggerated importance. i have learned about a lot of tools and technologies but i have forgot most of them because i havenot been able to use them any more because of different job requirements. certificates are just resume dressing for me nothing more nothing less. anyway i hope your assesment is correct and everything will workout
 
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