A sun contact sounds like a good plan but it seems they've purposely excluded the boolean logical operators for whatever reason. Probably to keep this "below" SCJP in terms of required knowledge as I think that is how Sun is setting this exam up to be...sort of a pre-exam to all the other certifications.
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Originally posted by Matt Kidd: A sun contact sounds like a good plan but it seems they've purposely excluded the boolean logical operators for whatever reason. Probably to keep this "below" SCJP in terms of required knowledge as I think that is how Sun is setting this exam up to be...sort of a pre-exam to all the other certifications.
In that case Matt, they should have excluded short circuit operators ( &&, || ) and kept simple logical operators ( &, | ). In my experience with Java beginners, short circuit operators are more difficult to understand compared to simple operators.
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My comment is, if you are already knew those topics, or if those topics are not really difficult to learn, why dont we also take a look on that?
At least, in order to play safe, we know how to answer those questions in case we see them in the test.
Exam-oriented is very important, however, the learning process is equivalently important as well.
I know these topic, I am just curious to know why these are not part of exam objectives scope.
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review everything you know including the exam objectives will safe your life for the scja exam.
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Originally posted by Mahesh Kumaraguru:
In that case Matt, they should have excluded short circuit operators ( &&, || ) and kept simple logical operators ( &, | ). In my experience with Java beginners, short circuit operators are more difficult to understand compared to simple operators.
Regards, Mahesh
I admit its been some time since I've had to distinguish between short circuit operators and simple logical but I understand your stance in that with simple logical operators both conditions are checked.
Now I'm trying to remember why I had such an easy time descerning this back in school because I recall the distinction came easy for me. Probably came up with some "pavlovian" trick to tell the difference between short circuit and simple.
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the lack of an edit feature is cumbersome
could it be to distinguish between the use of & and | for logic and bitwise operators and just to focus on them as conditionals?
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