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Wasim Ayoubi
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Joined: Nov 21, 2004
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Hi all

I did the exam yesterday; it is not so easy not so hard it is balanced

UML I had almost 15 questions, good questions and some of them were hard, the http://www.hfoobook.com/ is great and enough

ENUM about 5 questions, make sure you understand this very much.

FOREACH almost 4 questions, one of them was tricky , you have to be careful for types that foreach applies for,
for(element:somthing) you have to be careful about something.

The questions about J2ME and J2EE are direct, either you know the answer or not but you can figure out the right choice. Don�t panic about them, they are kind of easy.

Enjoy the exam guys, I liked the Exam very much, and I have read several times in other posts that SCJP are not supposed to take the exam, but I disagree with that, for me it was a good opportunity to learn new things, J2ME for an example, UML also and Web services, I think by taking this exam "Studying for the exam" you make your first step to get deep into Java's technologies.



Wasim Ayoubi<br />SCJA1.0(BETA), SCJP1.4, SCWCD1.4<br />Next ???
Nicholas Cheung
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Joined: Nov 07, 2003
Posts: 4982
It is glad to know that you enjoy the exam.

Let's wait for the result~~~

Nick


SCJP 1.2, OCP 9i DBA, SCWCD 1.3, SCJP 1.4 (SAI), SCJD 1.4, SCWCD 1.4 (Beta), ICED (IBM 287, IBM 484, IBM 486), SCMAD 1.0 (Beta), SCBCD 1.3, ICSD (IBM 288), ICDBA (IBM 700, IBM 701), SCDJWS, ICSD (IBM 348), OCP 10g DBA (Beta), SCJP 5.0 (Beta), SCJA 1.0 (Beta), MCP(70-270), SCBCD 5.0 (Beta), SCJP 6.0, SCEA for JEE5 (in progress)
Rudy Harianto
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Joined: Dec 01, 2003
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Just got back from the prometric testing center.
And I agree with you Wasim. This is taken from my recently posted blog:

Here is my comment about the exam:
# Not like most people in this forum, I find the questions not too easy. Well, at least we have to study about the topics covered in the exam objectives.
# It's unlikely for entry level of java programmer could really understand the topics, since It has broader coverage. From my experience, most of them will focus on core java (J2SE) instead of J2ME or Web Services. Maybe they can memorize it for the purpose of the exam, but i doubt if they can really understand about all topics covered in the exam, even if it's just from high level. I think even SCJP doesn�t guaranteed to answer the entire question correctly if they don't have experiences in J2EE, J2ME and Web Services.
# However, it is more suitable if the target for the exam is Project Managers dealing with java. I�m sure that they will at least gain benefit from their experiences from high level of java architecture of the projects they are on.


SCJP 1.4, SCWCD 1.4, SCBCD 1.3, SCJA<br /> <br />blog: <a href="http://jroller.com/page/rharianto" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://jroller.com/page/rharianto</a>
Bilal Sallakh
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Joined: Feb 26, 2005
Posts: 45
Good luck Wasim, hope we get high scores!


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Aleks V. Pascoal
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Joined: Apr 21, 2002
Posts: 73
Hey, can you make an example about these trick questions? I mean, the arguments for for-each are pretty straight: Collection or array.
And the variable must be the type of elements of the array or Collection, or Objects if no generics used.

Thanks!
Mahesh Kumaraguru
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Joined: Jun 01, 2005
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Originally posted by Rudy Harianto:
# However, it is more suitable if the target for the exam is Project Managers dealing with java. I�m sure that they will at least gain benefit from their experiences from high level of java architecture of the projects they are on.


Would not SCEA be a better option for a project manager of a J2EE architecture project ? Why would a project manager be interested in the following sections of SCJA :-

1: Fundamental OOPS
3: Java Implementation of OOPS
4: Algorithm Design and Implementation
5: Java Development Fundamentals

These are below SCJP in difficulty, but I would not expect a Project Manager to bother about these low level details of Java language. Just my thoughts


Regards,<br />K. Mahesh<br /> <br />SCJP 1.2 Aug-2001 : 79%
Rudy Harianto
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Joined: Dec 01, 2003
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Mahesh,

i agree that you've got the right point too..
But we look for the exam from a slightly different perspective. You are focusing on the questions about fundamental programming in java (objectives 1-5), well I set my eyes on the questions about Technologies in java (objectives 6-8).
Maybe if we look at it from both perspective, then the exam was right about its target, java newbie AND manager
But in my opinion they shouldn't be mixed together, since one is not suitable for the other. Just like you said, why should Project Manager bother about low level details? it is much the same with why should Java Newbie bother about the high level?
That just my opinion too
Nicholas Cheung
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Joined: Nov 07, 2003
Posts: 4982
can you make an example about these trick questions?

Honestly, I do not find any tricky questions. All are very strict forward.

Nick
Wasim Ayoubi
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Joined: Nov 21, 2004
Posts: 46
Hi Aleks

What you know about foreach arguments is great, the question I am telling you about does not need 007 to solve. you will get it right if you have it.
 
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