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O Muthu
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Joined: Jul 10, 2001
Posts: 10
I am thinking of taking the SCJD certification sometime soon. I am amazed at the detailed discussions and interactions that take place at this site regarding the actual assignment. It certainly is useful for the people taking the SCJD certication, but it is like getting help during an exam. It seems to me that such discussions and interactions make the SCJD certification seem less valuable. It is not too important if I am the only person that feels like this, but I wonder how the outside world (in particular the employers) looks at this issue!
Rick Fortier
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Joined: Jun 04, 2001
Posts: 147
I disagree. I think that discussions with others is part of the process of learning. And most of these discussions revolve around certain key issues only.
I agree that it would be wrong to pass source code around. I think that this group was very helpful in my process of solving this assignment.
How do employers look at this? Well when you interview someone you ask them questions and can tell if they know what they are talking about, or are just a "paper" java developer.
I think that employers mainly use certification as one way to wittle down a stack of resumes to those who have the best potential of doing the job. So if you have little experience, but you are certified, you might get an interview. If you have no experience and no certification, then why would an employer call you.
Certification shows potential employers your willingness to expand your skills and to have some level of personal discipline. And anyone who has done this assignment can tell you that it was alot of work. Employers know this, and therefore know that you are not afraid to work hard.
O Muthu
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Joined: Jul 10, 2001
Posts: 10
Rick, Thanks for taking the time to reply to my question and express your point of view. I have a Fortran background because I am a Chemical Engineer. I am quite new to Java, but I really like it. The one area that I am most uncomfortable is Threads, in particular the application of Threads. Actually I am in the process of doing the sample assignment (Mobile Conferencing) in the Java 2 Certification Guide (R & H) as preparation for the SCJD assignment. I am struggling with locking/unlocking records. I won't be comfortable till I actually do it. From all the discussions that go on, I see that the locking/unlocking records is a major area of discomfort for many others as well. Again, thanks for your response.
 
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