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Raghav Mathur
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Joined: Jan 12, 2001
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hi
i just cleared my scjp this weekend . I would like to know from the people who have already taked the scjd , that how should one go about it .Tell me from scratch .
thanks in advance
raghav mathur


Raghav.
Mark Spritzler
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First congrats on passing the SCJP.
The best part about the SCJD is that there is no books to read, no pre-requisite knowledge to know to start on the SCJD.
Now to the details.
You can use the Certification book from Roberts, Heller and Ernest. they have some very good chapters on the Developer cert. Plus they give me a percentage. (Not Really, but I can dream).
Next, go to Sun's java site, and take the tutorials on RMI, and Swing, unless you already know these very well.
Sign up for the Assignemtn, download it, and post lots of questions here. Javaranch is the best site of any, because we are all in the same boat as you, all rowing to the waterfall. OK I am really bad at analogies.
You will find that if you take your time, and view the cert as a great learning experience you will do great.
Good luck, and talk to you soon
Mark


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Bill Wooten
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I also just started the SCJD assignment and I've been scouring this board the last few days. There are a lot of great ideas out here and I'm incorporating a lot of them in my design. I've been focusing on design, but I've been itching to do some coding work on the assignment, so I'm going to start working on the deprecated methods and the criteriaSearch method tonight.
Thanks for all the great information!!
Raghav Mathur
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hi
thanks both of you . To let you know that i've never ever worked on rmi or swings ( though i know swings won't be that diff for me ) .I have to start with rmi from scratch . I think first i gotta have some hands on exp on rmi and then start with the whole scjd thing . what do you say ?
regards
raghav mathur
Mark Spritzler
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You don't have to do itthat way. You can learn RMI as you are doing the SCJD. That's really the point of SCJD is to learn as you go. It's much more fun that way.
Mark
Raghav Mathur
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ok ....
thats great but i guess the assignment has to be submitted in within a pirticular duration and for that you should be well versed with the tools you are using ... isn't that so ?
regards
raghav mathur
Originally posted by Mark Spritzler:
You don't have to do itthat way. You can learn RMI as you are doing the SCJD. That's really the point of SCJD is to learn as you go. It's much more fun that way.
Mark
Cathy Young
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No, there is not any time limitation on the assignment. This might be a good or bad part of it.
Debra Bellmaine
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Joined: Feb 22, 2002
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I also recently achieved SCJP2 status and have started on the SCJD2. I downloaded the assignment to "get the gist," then I took an instructor-led course from Sun, SL-285, at the local SunEd center near me. Excellent course and it covered the bulk of what is needed for completing the assignment. I'm sure there are those who may consider it wimpy to pay the big bucks for the course, but I totally got my money's worth and the instructor couldn't have been better.
I have also spent considerable time perusing this forum, and what I have been reading has convinced me that my approach to the assignment is very appropriate.
Debra Bellmaine
SCJP2


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Bal Sharma
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Originally posted by Debra Bellmaine:
..instructor-led course from Sun, SL-285, at the local SunEd center near me. Excellent course

Just for curiosity, how much did it cost and what did they cover? How much hands on.
-Bal
Debra Bellmaine
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The five-day course was $1995. The course content is described at the following url:
http://suned.sun.com/US/catalog/courses/SL-285.html#information
The course description fails to mention that the course goes extensively into the MVC design pattern, the command pattern, and finally RMI. There was only one other student in the course with me, so it was almost a one-on-one tutorial, and the instructor was very familiar with the Developers cert assignments.
Although the assignment indicates that the student will not be marked down for using serialized objects over socket connection vs. RMI, my instructor was quite firm in his belief that using RMI would mean a difference of at least 5 points...as it is more simple to correctly implement and far more elegant, I intend to go with this approach.
best,
Debra Bellmaine
SCJP2
Cathy Young
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Joined: Mar 02, 2002
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Just for curiosity, how much did it cost and what did they cover? How much hands on.
-Bal[/QB]
I will say almost $2k since lots of similar courses are around this amount.
Mikey Warren
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Joined: Jun 15, 2001
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I was just thinking about posting a similar question.
After reading the replies here I think I have a plan - I'll be trying to get myself up to speed with RMI, and Swing, and also investigate what the MVC and Command patterns are all about , then hand over the money for the assignement.
Does anyone have any recommendations of books that cover these subjects ? - I've got "Just Java 2", (which is excellent), and have also just bought the Roberts, Heller and Ernst Certification Study Guide which seems good so far.
thanks Mike.
Raghav Mathur
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what is the total cost of scjd ?
 
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