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Ilija Obucina

Joined: Nov 16, 2001
Posts: 6
I want to share my experience with java developer exam with this group. I was silent observer in this forum while I was doing my assignment and I found many posts here to be very useful. I took my essay exam at the beginning of March and after 4 weeks my assignment was not processed. I sent an email to sun and they responded that they did not get my essay exam from Prometric. I called Prometric and they told me different story. I contacted sun again asking for money back or free voucher for another exam. SUN simply said that they not provide refund for their vouchers. I contacted Rick Bunzel, who is in charge of this certification, and he was very up front in his communication saying that SUN knows that there are some problems with this certification, but they are working to eliminatethem. He also said that they are not willing to reimburse the money. Last week I checked database and I saw that I failed this exam because assessor was not able to run client side. This is stack trace:
java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: RED
> > at suncertify.client.Client.setConnectionStatusMessage(Unknown
> > Source)
> > at suncertify.client.Client.createStatusPane(Unknown Source)
> > at suncertify.client.Client.createTopPane(Unknown Source)
> > at suncertify.client.Client.createAndDisplayGui(Unknown
> > Source)
> > at suncertify.client.Client.main(Unknown Source)
In my readme.txt file I mentioned that I was using JDK 1.4.0 but assessor ether did not read it or did not bather to check what was the version that he/she was using. I run my classes with version 1.3 at home and of course i got the same error. So, i sent vary nasty email back to SUN in which I said that java developer exam has some serious problems. Finally, my assignment was re-graded and I got 143 points. After all, this has been very unpleasant experience for me and I hope that other people do not experience it the same way. I found contacting Rick Bunzel to be most effective way of resolving any issues (
Good luck to all of you.
Michael Morris
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Joined: Jan 30, 2002
Posts: 3451
Hi Ilija,
Yet another horror story Thanks for sharing your experience with the rest of us who are still working on the assignment. Mark had a post a few weeks back that indicated SUN was working hard to resolve these problems. I hope so, because I should be taking my exam around May 1. Hopefully I won't have a similar bad experience

Michael Morris

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Mark Spritzler

Joined: Feb 05, 2001
Posts: 17276

I also don't think they expect anyone to be submitting their assignment with 1.4, so the assessors probably don't have it loaded on their machines
I actually just downloaded 1.4 yesterday and only because I am going to beta test their new SCJP for 1.4 exam. Otherwise I would have waited until there was a good argument for having to upgrade.

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Ilija Obucina

Joined: Nov 16, 2001
Posts: 6
I also believe that assessor did not have it loaded, but that is beside the point. Those people should at lease READ instructions that we provide in the README file. The assessor actually asked me to re-submit my assignment not even guessing that problem could be with jdk version.It is very unprofessional approach to the job that they are suppose to do. I am in this business almost 10 years now and if I had the same approach I would not last very long.
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