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Javini Javono
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Hi,
Is posting to this news group considered "legal" by Sun?
Here are some quotes from assignment:





What to do if you have a question
You might find that you want to ask for
further explanation of some part of this
document, perhaps to seek permission to solve a problem in a particular way.
this document deliverately leaves some issues unspecified, and some problems
unraised. Your ability to think through these issues, in the face of realistically
imperfect specifications, and come to a tenable solution is something upon which
you are being graded.
In general, you should not ask your question; rather you should consider
the options available and make a decision about how to address the problem
yourself. This decision-making process is part of the marking scheme, and as
such it is crucially important that you provide documentation of your choice.
Be sure to describe the options you considered, the perceived benefits and
weaknesses of each, and why you chose the solution you did. Provided you do
not contravene any specification in this document you will not be marked on
the particular choice that you made, but rather on the consistency of your
decision making process and your adherence to other aspects of these notes
during that decision making process.
If you feel you must ask your question , you should address it to
emailAddress@sun.com. Clearly indicate that the question relates to
the Sun Certified Developer Exam, provide your candidate ID number, name,
and include your return e-mail address in the body of your message.
Describe your issue as briefly as reasonably possible;
you will be asked for more information if necessary.

Thanks,
Javini Javono
[ January 07, 2004: Message edited by: Javini Javono ]
Andrew Monkhouse
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Hi Javini,
I don't see how the first two sections you quoted apply to your question.
The third part you quoted is relating to asking questions directly from Sun - generally speaking they do not want to get questions there.
But to answer your topic's question: yes this site is "legal". Sun employees regularly visit these forums (and sometimes post in them as well). They are aware of what sort of conversations go on in these forums. We always try to ensure that we do not exceed what they may consider acceptable (we do not allow as much conversation on the assignment in the SCEA forum as a result of comments from Sun staff).
Regards, Andrew


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Philippe Maquet
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Hi Javini,
Is posting to this news group considered "legal" by Sun?

First time I meet this question. Interesting to see such a *new* one.
Yes, posting on this forum is legal, as it's "legal" (though not appropriate) to post on this forum recurrently dumb questions BTW .
In general, you should not ask your question; (...) If you feel you must ask your question, you should (...)

Once more, instructions are clear : you *should not* ask questions to SUN, period. Now, if you really want to anyway, I suggest you to have a very *smart*, *short* and *clear* one to post them. As you can further read in the same instructions, you need to "provide your candidate ID number, (and real) name", meaning that sending a *dumb*, *long* and *intricate* question to SUN could be risky.
Regards,
Phil.
[ January 07, 2004: Message edited by: Philippe Maquet ]
John Smith
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Is posting to this news group considered "legal" by Sun?
Nope. In a recent case, an unsuspecting developers was arrested and charged under some obscure California statute that makes it a felony to post the certification questions. If not for his lawer, the developer could have got up to 3 years in prison. He plead guilty and got off on a 1 year parole. Sun's spokeman commented: "It'll teach 'em a lesson." The question that the developer posted had to do with locking the database records and was accompanied by some code, but no code UBB was used.
Mark Spritzler
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Originally posted by Eugene Kononov:
Is posting to this news group considered "legal" by Sun?
Nope. In a recent case, an unsuspecting developers was arrested and charged under some obscure California statute that makes it a felony to post the certification questions. If not for his lawer, the developer could have got up to 3 years in prison. He plead guilty and got off on a 1 year parole. Sun's spokeman commented: "It'll teach 'em a lesson." The question that the developer posted had to do with locking the database records and was accompanied by some code, but no code UBB was used.

Good one Eugene.
Mark


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Andrew Monkhouse
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Originally posted by Eugene Kononov:
Is posting to this news group considered "legal" by Sun?
Nope. In a recent case, an unsuspecting developers was arrested and charged under some obscure California statute that makes it a felony to post the certification questions. If not for his lawer, the developer could have got up to 3 years in prison. He plead guilty and got off on a 1 year parole. Sun's spokeman commented: "It'll teach 'em a lesson." The question that the developer posted had to do with locking the database records and was accompanied by some code, but no code UBB was used.[/QB]

Bwahahaha
Manoj Gundawar
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Joined: Nov 17, 2002
Posts: 169
To be frank, I am that person who spent one year in CA jail b'cause of this forum. But anyway, it was good, cause I was not able to support myself just with Java programmer certification in my wallet.
Manoj
[ January 09, 2004: Message edited by: Jmannu gundawar ]

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