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What time should I take the essay exam after uploading the assignment?

long lingyu
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What time should I take the essay exam after uploading the assignment?
Nicholas Cheung
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For myself, I took the essay exam in the same day I uploaded the assignment.
In Hong Kong, there is one exam center that allows us to schedule the exam on the same day!
Thus, in the morning, when SUN's representative told me that I could upload the assignment, I scheduled the essay exam in the evening on the same day.
Since I just finished my assignment and documentations, those stuffs are still left in my brain. Thus, of course, I still remember my design stuffs, without refering back to the documentations.
If you decided to take it, say, 1 week later, you may need to reload the design stuffs into your memory.
Nick


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Jacques Bosch
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Yes, as soon as you can. I uploaded on a Sunday, and wrote the exam on the Wednesday (couldn't get it sooner)


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Nathaniel Stoddard
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I assume you're asking because you're nervous about the essay portion in some way--don't be. The essay portion is a cake walk. Just do it soon after so you can forget about it. Remember that your assignment won't be sent to a grader before you take it, so do it soon. But other than that, don't worry about it.


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long lingyu
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After I uploaded the assignment, I thought about the assignment.I found some unsure problem. I am afraid I can't pass.
Satish Avadhanam
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Originally posted by long lingyu:
After I uploaded the assignment, I thought about the assignment.I found some unsure problem. I am afraid I can't pass.

Come on, Long. Don't be afraid. You must have done great. Its just a feeling you have that you did'nt do upto your full potential or something like that.
Cheer up! And tell us the good news soon BTW Good Luck for your essay exam.
Flavio Nobili
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I heard that, after uploading the project, you have to wait Sun to send you an email confirming that you can schedule your essay exam. Is it true? Do they verify something in our project before taking the essay exam?
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Flavio.


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George Marinkovich
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Hi Fl�vio,
Originally posted by Fl�vio Fran�a:
I heard that, after uploading the project, you have to wait Sun to send you an email confirming that you can schedule your essay exam. Is it true? Do they verify something in our project before taking the essay exam?

No, not true. Instead the problem is that when you attempt to upload your project you will be unable to do so due a permissions problem. You then have to email Sun and ask them to change the permission to allow you to upload the assignment. I realize this doesn't make any sense but it is in fact the standard operating procedure. My suggestion is to ask for permission before you are ready to upload your project, so that you will not have to wait for them to send you an email notifying you that they have changed your permission. This can take from two business days to over a week. So it seems unwise to me to schedule your essay exam before you have successfully uploaded your assignment. After uploading your assignment you should schedule your essay exam as soon as possible. That said, the essay exam is actually easier than uploading your project.
Remember to read your design choices document before taking the exam, and I think it's not a bad idea to look through your code before taking the exam as well. When you are explaining why you did something it's nice to remember what you actually did.
[ March 26, 2004: Message edited by: George Marinkovich ]

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Mehmet Atlihan
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Joined: Mar 03, 2004
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Hi guys
I feel like to join the conversation as I uploaded my assignment today as well. I appreciate if someone can give me a feedback as to how to register for essay exam and the context of it.
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Mehmet
George Marinkovich
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Hi Mehmet,
First, congratulations on uploading your assignment.
Originally posted by Mehmet Atlihan:
Hi guys
I feel like to join the conversation as I uploaded my assignment today as well. I appreciate if someone can give me a feedback as to how to register for essay exam and the context of it.

The hard part really is over.
The essay exam is not difficult if you remember what you did on the project and why you did it that way. The answers to almost all the essay exam questions are (or should be) contained in your design decisions document. Three out of the four questions I received fell into this category. The fourth question was unexpected and dealt with a very minor implementation decision. There were two problems with this question:
1) even though I had read through my code before taking the essay exam (and I recommend everyone do this before taking the exam), I didn't have a very clear memory of exactly which way I went with the implementation (I know this sounds lame, but trust me it was a really minor decision).
2) after racking my brain and vaguely remembering what I had done, I was then somewhat at a loss as to why I had made that decision. In other words, I couldn't remember the pros and cons of making the decision because quite honestly I'm not sure I weighed the pros and cons -- I didn't spend that much time thinking about it.
Luckily my grad school training kicked in -- you know where they teach you how to write a comprehensive sounding response to a question regardless if you really know the answer or not -- and I was able to hash out a (good) reason why I had done what I had done and then one or two additional reasons (neither of which was very convincing). Suffice it to say it was my weakest answer on the entire exam.
In hindsight I could potentially have misremembered which way I went on this design decision and so I perhaps should have said that I honestly didn't remember which way I went and then describe why I thought this was of minor importance. I could of then discussed in very general terms some of the pros and cons (the few I could remember) and then say that really there was little to recommend one way over the other, so I just chose one (not exactly sure which) and implemented it correctly to serve my purposes.
The reason I was not terribly worried about this question is that one must remember the purpose of the exam is to convince the examiner that you are the person that wrote the project that you submitted. My answers to the other three questions could leave no possible doubt in the examiner's mind that I had actually done the work I submitted. Another reason is that this particular question really is kind of out of left field, it's a weird question in that it's at a much lower level of detail than the other questions. That is, even though I was only able to muster a weak response to this question, I thought it very likely that most of the other people taking this version of the exam would have the same problem. In other words, I suppose the answer to this question will be everyone's weakest response and therefore it's really not worth worrying about.
If when you finish your exam you are able to say: "someone who had not developed my project would have had a very difficult time giving the kind of answers I gave", then you've accomplished your mission which to reiterate: is to convince the examiner that you wrote the project you submitted and that you have some level of understanding of why you did what you did (the deeper the level of understanding the better of course, but even if you don't remember all the reasons it's still not a fatal deficiency).
How does one register for the exam? The same way you registered for the SCJP Exam. It seems to me you should be able to take the SCJD exam at the same location. You should be able to get contact information from the Sun website if you've forgotten how you registered for the SCJP.
Finally, I think Alain Trottier has done a good job of indicating what aspects of the project would make good essay exam questions. I believe you can get this information online at the following link (look at Chapter 19):Java� 2 Developer Exam Cram� 2 (Exam CX-310-252A and CX-310-027)
 
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