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Michel Bertrand
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 31, 2003
Posts: 26
Hello !

I failed in the developer exam and I didn't find
any comment describing and explaning why did I fail
in my project.

Is there anyway to get this information ? And what
about now, do I have to buy another voucher for the
exam, build another project and so on ?

Thanks in advance !
Michel.
Hanna Habashy
Ranch Hand

Joined: Aug 20, 2003
Posts: 532
hi Michel
Sorry to hear that you faild. I thnik there are many people that don't get it from the first try. Sun offer a $125 voucher to resubmit the same assignment.

For prospective candidates who did not pass their Sun Certified Developer for Java 2 Platform, Programming Assignment (CX-310-252A) and who want to resubmit an assignment using the CertManager database.

The link is:
http://suned.sun.com/US/catalog/courses/CX-310-252R.html

Can you tell us about your experiece, and what is the reason that you think it is the cuase of failing, so we won't do it.
thanks
[ May 18, 2004: Message edited by: Hanna Habashy ]

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Michel Bertrand
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 31, 2003
Posts: 26
I really don't imagine what happened. I suspect of the written exam. There I did not give so much details about my implementations and so I belive it was the core problem. I contacted Sun <who2contact@central.sun.com> and I'm waiting their feedback. In case of news I write them here and thanks for your information.
Vishwa Kumba
Ranch Hand

Joined: Aug 27, 2003
Posts: 1064
Michel,
Sorry to hear this, but are you sure you failed the exam?...
Sun usually gives feedback about the mistakes.Usually nobody fails due to
the essay test. The theory essay test is only there to prove that you
have done the assignment.It doesn't contribute to any marks.
Andrew Monkhouse
author and jackaroo
Marshal Commander

Joined: Mar 28, 2003
Posts: 11404
    
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Hi Michel,

From the JavaRanch SCJD FAQ:


Help - I uploaded my assignment and it says I failed, with no score and no comments

You cannot fail the Part II exam (unless you leave questions unanswered), however Prometric sometimes marks the test as failed in the cert manager database. There have been reports of it having something to do with timing: when they think you did the exam / when they pass the exam data to Sun / when Sun acknowledge it.

Your assignment and your exam will be sent to an examiner, and eventually you will see your score, at which time you will be able to see whether you have passed or failed. Until then unfortunately you may still see the Failed status with no comments or explanations.

If you are still nervous, you could write to Prometric and/or Sun and get their assurances as well. (And if you get a better explanation for why you have got a "Failed" status, please update this FAQ).

If you fail the assignment, you should either get a description of the major area you failed (e.g. missing file) or you should get a points break down for each section showing where you lost points. If you did not get either of these then you have to write to Sun and get clarification.


That last paragraph is the telling one: if you have not been given a points breakdown, and you have not been told of a critical problem, then you probably have not failed at all - it is just the bug in Prometric's procedures.

Hopefully the response from Sun will tell you the same thing.

If you have failed, then all you need do is work on the section you have failed, then resubmit the assignment (using the voucher mentioned by Hanna).

Regards, Andrew


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Michel Bertrand
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 31, 2003
Posts: 26
Hello !

Yes, I did not get any detail. So, I was very worry about it.

Accessing the "Candidate History" on Prometric registration site I have "Tested" for the status of my exam. Probably I'm facing that
inconsistency of Prometric system marking my exam failed in certmanager
database since they don't have the final score yet ( I hope so ).

I will wait for the Sun answer to ensure this situation. Yesterday,
I passed some time verifying my project and I did not find anything
serious that could result in a fail and so I hope to get certified
as Sun Java Developer.

Thanks for all and best regards !
Michel.
Denis Spirin
Ranch Hand

Joined: Mar 22, 2004
Posts: 72
Accessing the "Candidate History" on Prometric registration site I have "Tested" for the status of my exam. Probably I'm facing that
inconsistency of Prometric system marking my exam failed in certmanager
database since they don't have the final score yet


"Tested" means that you wrote essay and nothing else .


Regards<br /> <br />Ph.D.<br />SCJP 1.4, SCWCD 1.4, SCBCD 1.3, SCJD 2
Michel Bertrand
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 31, 2003
Posts: 26
Hi guys !

I really failed ! They said that a requirement was not implemented resulting in an automatic failure.

Now, I'm going to take the voucher to resubmit the project. So, do I have to take another essay exam ? May I modify other parts of my project ? What do you think about it ?

Thanks in advance !
Michel.
Andrew Monkhouse
author and jackaroo
Marshal Commander

Joined: Mar 28, 2003
Posts: 11404
    
  81

Hi Michel,

They should have told you exactly which "must" requirement was not met.

You can then modify your assignment to meet that requirement and resubmit it.

You do not need to take the exam again.

Regards, Andrew
Satish Avadhanam
Ranch Hand

Joined: Aug 12, 2003
Posts: 697
Originally posted by Denis Spirin:


"Tested" means that you wrote essay and nothing else .


Guys, my candidate history says "No Show" for the essay exam. What is it about? Did they got my essay exam for evaluation or should I mail them about anything?

BTW took essay exam on 26th, April.

Any suggestions on how to proceed or wait? Really appreciate any input. Thanks.
Denis Spirin
Ranch Hand

Joined: Mar 22, 2004
Posts: 72
Hi Satish

Guys, my candidate history says "No Show" for the essay exam. What is it about? Did they got my essay exam for evaluation or should I mail them about anything?


I think you need to contact Prometric centre. You must have had Examination Score Report, just send them your data from report and ask whats with database. I think they will tell what to do.
Philippe Maquet
Bartender

Joined: Jun 02, 2003
Posts: 1872
Hi Michel,

Sorry to hear that.

Is it possible to know which is the requirement you missed? Thank you in advance.

Best regards,

Phil.
 
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