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Anton Golovin
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Hi, guys! I've been thinking about an approach to writing about SCJD that would probably be ok with Sun. I was thinking about writing about how to implement locking in various forms, a TableModel, RMI-related stuff, data-transport solution, etc., in generic terms. This way, not only the overall structure of the project is addressed, but also the coding part is clarified. And, being general enough, this writing would not raise problems with the Sun people.

I was wondering if perhaps Max would be interested in this approach for his next edition??

Anton Golovin ( SCJP, SCJD, SCBCD, SCWCD, OCEJWSD, SCEA/OCMJEA [JEE certs from Sun/Oracle]
Inuka Vincit
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It would be nice also if this assignment is approached in a generic project sense. A discussion of the design problem breaking it apart, testing. Then address the issues like you said Anton. The reason I say this is that I found several design, and design pattern books very helpful as well(more so than some SCJD specific books).

However, the person I would like to see write a book about SCJD is Mr. Monkhouse. During the time I waited for Max's book, I read the past threads on some of the issues I had. Once I realized the wealth of information that there was on this site(plus the java tutorials on, the SCJD book I baught was just a paper weight. The past threads that were answered by Andrew were spot on, sometimes I didnt agree with him, but he knew what he was talking about.

So Mr. Monkhouse are you listening .
[ November 24, 2004: Message edited by: Inuka Vincit ]

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Anton Golovin
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I used both Max's book and the benefit of this forum, and both are excellent sources (thanks, Andrew). Still, a treatment of different approaches to a generic project would be nice, I think. That's a book or a sub-book idea right there. There are several ways to implement locking. As I wrote them out, I thought that someone with a lot more experience than I have could really make an exposition like that into a generically useful explanations on its own merits; and there are other Java things which can be discussed...

This would be great learning experience, as well. Just a thought
Andrew Monkhouse
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Hi Anton & Inuka,

Originally posted by Inuka Vincit:
... So Mr. Monkhouse are you listening .

Hmmmm - do I have to write it on my own, or can Max and I join forces and write a book together? .

Originally posted by Anton Golovin:
... I was wondering if perhaps Max would be interested in this approach for his next edition??

Believe me, the hardest part of the updated book is in getting the mix right. We need the topics to be generic so that the book remains useful outside of SCJD and so that it does not give away a complete solution / upset Sun. But at the same time we also need to ensure that the information is relevant to the past / current / future projects.

Best regards, Andrew

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Anton Golovin
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Hi, Andrew! Here's an idea for the book name: "Selected Topics in Software Application Development with Java."
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