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How to do practical portion of SCJD - No access to Java at Work. Ours is SAP ABAP .

Jason Mills
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Joined: Aug 22, 2006
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I have been working in SAP all along. I am trying to get into J2EE since SAP is moving in that direction.

I need following HELP to prepare and pass SCJD

1) I do not have access to Java system at work since we are mostly SAP ABAP shop. ABAP is SAP's development language. Right now, SAP has both ABAP engine and J2EE engine for doing delopment in both ABAP and Java. However, no access is given for Java development because we have no deveopers with Java background.

Having said that, how can I do the practical assignment part of SCJD? Please help !!

JM
Jeroen T Wenting
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do it at home...


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Jason Mills
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Perhaps, I should have been more clearer.

What do I need to (e.g.download TOMCAT etc.) complete the programming assignment? Do I need to buy/purchase any software etc.

Can you be more specific other than "do at home"?

Thanks
Oricio Ocle
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Hello Jason, and welcome Javaranch.
I need following HELP to prepare and pass SCJD...

Umm... several months here at Javaranch make me think you will need more to pass
how can I do the practical assignment part of SCJD...

To become a SCJD you first need to be a SCJP.
None of them are J2EE certifications, but are recommended.

Regards


SCJP, OCMJD, OCMJEA
Petr Hejl
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When you are asking such questions I suppose you should:
1) learn basic java principles
2) take SCJP (prereq for SCJD)
3) take SCJD (requirements are placed at sun's website)

P.
Jason Mills
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Joined: Aug 22, 2006
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Thanks for replies.

I am quite aware of the SCJP requirement and I am going for the SCJP examination in 2 weeks.

Having said that ....what software and hardware do I require AT HOME to complete the programming assignment.

Thanks
Petr Hejl
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If you ever wrote some other program than Hello World in Java than you already have all you need for scjp (JDK and text editor) - once again look at sun website.
Jason Mills
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I asked a VERY SIMPLE question.

1)If I am appearing for SCJP, don't you think I have some kind of IDE? I have JBoss Eclipse for writting simple Java programs.

SCJD programming exercise, requires much more than IDE. That is precisly is my question?
Oricio Ocle
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Two good starting points:
  • Javaranch FAQ
  • Javaranch SCJD FAQ
  • Jason Mills
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    Joined: Aug 22, 2006
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    Thanks BUT unfortunately the FAQ does not answer my question.

    Do I need some kind of application server, back end database etc? If yes, are there any free versions I can download on my PC and do the assignment at home?

    Thanks
    Oricio Ocle
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    FAQ do answer your question and much more.
    For example them say that posting in capitals is a very bad practice.
    Petr Hejl
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    Once again did you read this?
    http://www.sun.com/training/catalog/courses/CX-310-252A.xml

    You really _don't need_ much (nothing) more than jdk and ide. Are you asking or propagating your opinion? To finish the discussion: You don't need nothing more than jdk5 and favorite ide.
    Dalton Filho
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    Originally posted by Jason Mills:
    Thanks BUT unfortunately the FAQ does not answer my question.

    Do I need some kind of application server, back end database etc? If yes, are there any free versions I can download on my PC and do the assignment at home?

    Thanks


    No, you don't need any. This assignment is much simpler than you imagine. All you need is your favorite IDE.


    SCJP, SCJD<br />(now studying for SCWCD)
    Jason Mills
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    Joined: Aug 22, 2006
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    Thanks.

    "No, you don't need any. This assignment is much simpler than you imagine. All you need is your favorite IDE".

    That is what I wanted to know. This simple answer to a simple question would have closed the topic long time back.

    any way, thanks for clearing this up.
    Jeroen T Wenting
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    Originally posted by Jason Mills:
    Perhaps, I should have been more clearer.

    What do I need to (e.g.download TOMCAT etc.) complete the programming assignment? Do I need to buy/purchase any software etc.

    Can you be more specific other than "do at home"?

    Thanks


    If you read your assignment you'd have known you need nothing at all except a current JDK and a text editor.
    An internet connection would also be handy to upload the completed work for grading
    Petr Hejl
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    The ask was answered here:
    If you ever wrote some other program than Hello World in Java than you already have all you need for scjp (JDK and text editor) - once again look at sun website.


    Don't now why you ignored it and asked again and again... :/
    Jeroen T Wenting
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    I think he only ever wrote web applications or plugin modules for SAP and is quite unaware that that's not all of Java.
    If that's the case his idea that expensive tools and application servers are required is somewhat understandable but he may not be a good candidate for the SJCD because of it as he really needs to do more general Java coding first.
    Barry Gaunt
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    I think we are done on this one...

    Java 5.0 jdk and an editor (vi, emacs, Notepad++, Jedit++, Eclipse, NetBeans, whatever takes your fancy as long as it does not generate code for you - epecially for the GUI).


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