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passed 390/400, but this is interesting...

Mike Ottinger
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phew, I passed! First off thanks so much for this wonderful resource. Literally every question I could possibly have was already posted here with in-depth answers.

But, I had the dreaded experience of realizing I'd forgotten to generate my RMIC stubs after I'd posted my submission. So I was prepared for the automatic failure and had a new submission with RMIC stubs ready to be re-posted. But alas, I passed nonetheless. Out of curiosity, does anyone know if this requirement has been relaxed?

Thanks again everyone!


SCJP 1.4 SCJD 1.5
Gabriel Vargas
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Joined: May 16, 2007
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Congratulations Mike, this is a very good score. Andrew in his book recomends generate stubs for a RMI solution, but maybe the people of sun forget to check this because since Java 5 generates the stubs dinamically.


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Naveen Narayanan
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Joined: Sep 11, 2007
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Congratz


SCJP 5.0, SCJD, SCWCD
rohan tiwari
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Great score..


SCJP 5, SCWCD 1.4, SCJD 5
Mike Ottinger
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Thanks guys for the congrats. So another confusing thing, I had been looking for my assignment results in the The Sun Certification I7 database, but I never saw them posted there, so I decided to check the Assignment Watcher database at http://www.certmanager.net/sun_assignment/ even though the SCJD FAQ says: "Only your score will appear in the Sun Certification I7 database." This is where my score was. Is this something else that Sun has changed? The whole "2 database" setup has me very confused. Will my result eventually show up in the I7 database? Thanks again
Herman Schelti
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Joined: Jul 17, 2006
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hi Mike,

great score!
The hardest part is yet to come.

I had the same experience as you. Sun only updated their database only after I mailed them 3 times in a week. They just 'manually certified' me.

Only then did they send me a certificate, but with the wrong date.
I asked for a certificate with the correct date, but that one hasn't arrived yet...

best of luck,
Herman
Mike Ottinger
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ah yes, I haven't gotten my cert yet, but for the time being, I'm thankful I passed.
rohan tiwari
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Hey Mike,

What was your assignment?

Which java version did you use?I think they might have relaxed the stub requirement for Java 1.6.
Mike Ottinger
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Hi Rohan,

My assignment was the B&S assignment. I did my project on a mac book pro and just as I was submitting my assignment Java 6 was coming out for the Mac, so I submitted mine under Java 5. I'm chalking this one up to divine intervention. My submission instructions stated that I MUST generate my stubs. Even if they're relaxing this requirement, I'd imagine they'd still enforce it for assignments given prior to removing the requirement. I'd be curious to know if anyone else had my situation as well, it does seem like such a petty requirement given that they're automatically generated.
rohan tiwari
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Did it specifically say no to generate stubs or just said not to dynamically download classes ?
Mike Ottinger
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Hi Rohan,

this is directly from my submission instructions:

You must provide all classes pre-installed so that no dynamic class downloading occurs.
Joe Harry
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Congratulations!


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William Smith II
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Joined: Apr 26, 2007
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I recommend building the RMI stubs. If I recall, I found that if I didn't throw a RemoteException in my code, you might end up with a clean java compile. But then when you run rmic, that's when the error shows up. So if you ask me, I would always generate the stubs, just to make sure your code is compliant and won't cause a runtime error.
Alberto Ivo
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Joined: Jul 06, 2007
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Hello Mike.. Congratulations man.. very nice score.

Can I ask you how was your score per topic?

What materials did you use besides Andrew's book?

How long time do you know Java and how long time did you spent doing scjd?

thanks in advance.
Mike Ottinger
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Hi Alberto,

Here was my breakdown in score:

General Considerations 90/100
Documentation 70/70
O-O Design 30/30
GUI 40/40
Locking 80/80
Data store 40/40
Network server 40/40

Aside from Andrew's book, my only other resource was this forum, whatever question I might have had could be found in this forum, it was indispensable. Another thing that I felt helped a lot was using TestNG, a new generation of unit testing that, in my opinion, is leaps and bounds better than junit, TestNG supports multithreaded testing, something very important for this assignment. Also, I'm a big fan of Spring and took many design ideas through Spring (subclassing RuntimeException, setting dependencies for a class externally, dealing with POJOs as much as possible). I've been working professionally with java for about 5 years now. It took me a little less than 6 months to complete the SCJD, but I took a couple months in the middle off, so altogether I probably spent 3 months of solid work on it. Hope this helps and good luck!
Alberto Ivo
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thanks Mike.... it really helped.

another doubt:

can we make the GUI using the facilities of Netbeans? Or we have to code with our bare hands?

thanks.
Mike Ottinger
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Hi Alberto, I'd steer clear of anything that generates code for you, you're responsible for every line of code, if Sun determines your GUI came from a tool it might mean an auto fail. Probably just best to be safe and right the GUI by hand.
Alberto Ivo
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yeah.. i agree with you...

thanks again, man.
 
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