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Arjun Ravi Narayan of Bangalore is hardly 12 years old, but he is probably one of the youngest person in the country and the world to pass the Sun certified programmer examination for Java2 platform. For more details read http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/nov02/anc.htm --Inga
Maybe the kid is just very bright. I saw a child on television that finished High School by age 5, Obtained his Master's in Physics by age 9 and was working on his PHD at age 10. Of course this child also was able to speak at 6 months. Does this mean the value of all of us is dropping?? The SCJP is no piece of cake and if it's not enough why not go for you SCJD or SCJA. My .02, Travis Gibson
Regards,<BR>Travis M. Gibson, SCJP<BR>Java Developer<BR>www.travismgibson.com<BR>email@example.com
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The value of SCJP is not dropped as you say so. If it is so why would every one including you Aaron and Erin work hard and struggle to get through. You should be positive in thinking and encourage this kid rather than coming up with some excuse !!! Kudos to this whizkid !!! --Inga
Well.. ultimately JAVA is not a rocket science..It is mere a language with few syntax and some concepts which straight concepts. Not that, I wish to take away the credit from the 12 year old or the java gurus who have helped me via this forum. Just thought that I would let you know, I have a friend who is SCJP but was turned down for lack of experience. There are still some employers who value experience more than anything else and this may not be just JAVA experience. I personally feel the JAVA certification effect will slowly dilute down. Just my thought ! Varsha
Hi all, Nothing is tough , ( even rocket science) if one got brains. Many people are thinking that the standards of SCJP has been lower very much because of these new format..... So lots of people should be scoring 100% ? Is that happening? The people who pass around real exam questions are lowering the exam standard. I feel the Sun should change its database once in 6 month. SCJP is just a starting point...there is SCJD..etc.,which isn't easy at all. this is just my thought. Jeban PS:Thanx moderators for delete Oliver's mail.It was truely in a bad taste.
I did not want to attract much attention to Oliver's deleted message, but since Jonathan mentioned it... Oliver, what has happened to you today? Please, before you post your messages, think if they can hurt other people's feelings. We appreciate your collaboration in this site anyway.
Wonderful! This guy is a Prodigy. BTW the people who are criticising this little kid, would they criticize Sachin Tendulkar,who at the age of 15 year made batting look simple. I understand everybody is not a genious but with hard work one can make this exam look simple.
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First of all I want to congrats to that 12 year young man. Now I want to talk about value of SCJP. I don't now in what respects some people are saying value is going down. In my opinion SUN certification is a standard, and it speaks for a person that he knows the JAVA upto sun certification standard. Then it is upto the employer how he interprets the SUN certification. Or he can put a better exam to verify your knowldge. Today's SUN certification standard is really good. If a person passed the certification means he can say he knows JAVA very well. Then after he has to build upon his basics. May be he has to learn Swing or Servlets ets,. I also know that now a days some people collect all examination questions from the people who appeared for Certification and do the business. People always want short cuts. Such kind of people may not do well. Any certification and digree doesn't assure any body that he will perfectly do with his profession. Those are just standards. How a person applays what he knows is the completly depends on that individual. So is not right to say any certification or any digree's value is going down. Regards, Srikanth
Not everyone can be Albert Einstein. Though nuclear science is easy to understand and thesedays anyone who knows enough physics can make a nuclear bomb. Does that mean Albert Einstein is no demigod?? Or does that mean his inventions has lost value?? Just because a kid passes SCJP it does not mean the value of SCJP has gone down. On the otherhand, he is an above-average kid considering even today SCJP is a hard-to-crack exam and not everyone who takes it can score 100%. I strongly believe that no exam is tough with right preparation. There is nothing that cannot be achieved - even Misson to Pluto is possible. However we call someone an achiever when he/she accomplishes something that is hard for others. If a ten-year old can fly a Mig plane, that is something awesome. Not because it is hard to fly a Mig fighter, but because there are not many ten-year olds who can do that. Also, if more ten-year olds starts flying Mig planes, and flying a Mig fighter finds its way into elementary school syllabus, the first one who did that will not lose his tropy!!! SCJP is a still a high standard certification exam administered by Sun. Nobody guarantees a job if you have an SCJP. It is just a credential for your professional confidence. The fact that one can just read a book and learn a language does not undermine the value of certification. Similarly, a Certification is not a substitute for professional experience. Okay, that's enough for now, lets get back to work Ajith
Open Group Certified Distinguished IT Architect. Open Group Certified Master IT Architect. Sun Certified Architect (SCEA).
I would be very proud to be the father of that kid. Congrats to the kid and the parents. For those of you who are jelous its ok to be jelous it natural, but be happy for him at the same time. Does anyone know the email address of that kid? May be we could get him to post some tips. I bet he has some good notes
I hope this kid is not being pressured by his parents to study hard etc... Second of all it is very rare that kids that young can think in the abstract. Abstract thinking has to do with sex hormones which change the brain to give it the ability to think in the abstract.
The question here is " are all the 11-12 year kids who appear for scjp always clear it with 100% ?". I think the answer is no, so relax and let the kid live. [This message has been edited by mohit joshi (edited November 03, 2000).]
so sex is related to java certification. good. if a 12 year old passes i hope i will also pass. congratulatins to the kid. we should have a stock market of certifications. so that all the certifications are traded and their intrinsic value is known to everybody. today's rate mcsd-5000 Rs cne-6000 Rs sun java certification- 15000Rs
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I am sure Javaranch helps us boost the score. All of the regular visitors to Javaranch get 15 to 20% atleast 'coz of the discussions and links to mock exams. Since this kid is not around here, his 77% would be 90%+ easily if he was around in Javaranch. Inga
:-( I am only 14 right now and hoping to become certified by 15 at least. oh well congrats to the brat. sorry just had to say that ------------------ I wish there was a button on my monitor to turn up the intellegince. Theres a button called 'brightness' but it doesn't work
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