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I am also in elite group of SCJP-2.0

Amit Tyagi
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Joined: Oct 18, 2000
Posts: 52
Hi Friends,
I can't describe my excitement in words. Yes....
I am also in elite group of SCJP-2.0
I passed SCJP-2 with 72%. The score is not very great. I could have scored better but as you all know every day is not our day.
I had really put a lot of efforts to get this score.
Let me describe it to you all.... may be this will help few of you
But, First thing keep in your mind.....
The Exam is really not at allllllll difficult.....
I mean passing the exam is easy.
Any way.... I am a civil engineer presently in Kuwait.
I have a good hand in computers, But never done any programming.(Should give boost to some persons)
I thought of doing Java in August, when I came from India to Kuwait.
Unfortunately, I started it in September.
( After committing to myself that,I will go to USA by the end of this year)
So, Guys .....You all have to set the target first.
I went through the complete BalaguruSwami book first, which helped me a lot in clearing my doubts.
The BalaguruSwami book is not sufficient to for certification. but it is good for the person who wants to start from the scratch.
Then, I found RHE and Khalid book from One of my friend
(Mahan Singh, having more than 15 certification from Brainbench and Micro Soft.)
Guys..... Khalid is really a good book. he has written a lot but useful. After seeing the exam, I found that RHE would have also been sufficient but we are not preparing for exam only...
I followed a lot of material from web. Some sites are really useful. specially the mahaanna's one.
Ultimately...... The main point .... How was the exam.....

I didn't get any code bigger than 20 lines.
Some question. were tricky and I know, I couldn't answer them right. All tricky questions were from language fundamentals.
(Like encapsulation and data hiding all definition ). I got lowest score in this section only. I never expected this to come in exam.
No true false questions.
No short answer questions.
IO was really very easy.(Only the constructors).
Two questions from collection.
Threading 4 questions.( only one question which was difficult and other 3 were easy.)
I still remember a lot of questions. but I think.,I am not supposed to disclose them..... Moderators must be knowing better.
But still, If somebody wants to clarify any doubts ...let me know... I am available....

bye for all

Amit Tyagi

Aru Ven
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Joined: Sep 28, 2000
Posts: 199
Congrats Amit.....
U Did it......
ARuna
shanks iyer
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Joined: Oct 16, 2000
Posts: 47
Congrats Amit you have have done it!!!
Regards,
Shankar.
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Joined: Aug 26, 2000
Posts: 10065
Congratulations, Amit! Passing SCJP without previous programming experience is an achievement!


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Anubala shrivastava
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Joined: Nov 03, 2000
Posts: 9
CONGRATS AMIT
WITHOUT PROGRAMMING EXPERIENCE IT IS REALLY GREAT ..
SHALINI PATEL
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Joined: Oct 31, 2000
Posts: 41
congrats amit..
Well done, can yu highlight something more about threads. Everybody says that its quiet hard. Yu r the first one to say that yu have found it very easy..
SHALINI
Harpal Singh
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Joined: Oct 10, 2000
Posts: 229
congrats amit.................
Harpal
Dipti Shah
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Joined: Oct 22, 2000
Posts: 7
Congrats Amit !!!
I m planning to give the exam next week but didn't know if they are asking any theory questions like encapsulation and data hiding stuff .It will be very kind u to mail me personally at dipti0909@yahoo.com abt some example questions ASAP.
Thanks & Regards
Dipti
shailesh sonavadekar
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Joined: Oct 12, 2000
Posts: 1874
Congratulations , Amit. You deserve a toast. Now , you help others in getting them the certification. Please post your experiences , notes etc. on your personal web site for the benefits of all the javaranchers.

What next ? SCJD ? Do participate in the forums & help others. Your experience & participation is invaluable for us.
Amit Tyagi
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Joined: Oct 18, 2000
Posts: 52
Thank you all guys ....
Let me say something about the threads.....
Hey before that very important thing....
Don't miss the java test sample question...
I got 6 questions from the sun site only.
They changed just the value .....
Any way... know very well about the round function [/B] .it returns int and long. Well means just remember it.
2.In threading, I got 75%. I did one question wrong out of four.
Any way see.....
write the code with the fillowing objective....
You should understand that if I write

t1.run();// t1 some thread
so you should know that this thing will compile.....
you are just overridding the run method and then calling it so no error.
Second ...... One method with synchronized modifier.
two threads, which will try to access the code, so what will happen.. I mean what will be the sequence of output for the member variables...
Third type same as above but without synchronized....
See, by reading it seems easy.. I request you all to just write some code and try to see the result. You all will be very comfortable in exam.
Fourth type should be a dead lock.
Write a code where one therad in the synchronized method will try to call another synchronized methos. You all should be able to make out the dead lock.
Again.....
try to understand the infinite loop inside the infinite loop.
I made mistake here. that is why, I got only 42%.(lot of question like theory and all this stuff.)
See, I should not write all details so friends can't help it....
but, still you can ask about any thing ,I will try of answer in some other way...
Bye

Amit Tyagi
girish hegde
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Joined: Oct 27, 2000
Posts: 20
hi man congratulations........now time for beer and vodka.
good go to the US.
please mail some example questions.
my mail is ghegde1@rediffmail.com
best of luck.
Amit Tyagi
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Joined: Oct 18, 2000
Posts: 52
Thank you all guys ....
Let me say something about the threads.....
Hey before that very important thing....
Don't miss the java test sample question...
I got 6 questions from the sun site only.
They changed just the value .....
Any way... know very well about the round function [/B] .it returns int and long. Well means just remember it.
2.In threading, I got 75%. I did one question wrong out of four.
Any way see.....
write the code with the fillowing objective....
You should understand that if I write

t1.run();// t1 some thread
so you should know that this thing will compile.....
you are just overridding the run method and then calling it so no error.
Second ...... One method with synchronized modifier.
two threads, which will try to access the code, so what will happen.. I mean what will be the sequence of output for the member variables...
Third type same as above but without synchronized....
See, by reading it seems easy.. I request you all to just write some code and try to see the result. You all will be very comfortable in exam.
Fourth type should be a dead lock.
Write a code where one therad in the synchronized method will try to call another synchronized methos. You all should be able to make out the dead lock.
Again.....
try to understand the infinite loop inside the infinite loop.
I made mistake here. that is why, I got only 42%.(lot of question like theory and all this stuff.)
See, I should not write all details so friends can't help it....
but, still you can ask about any thing ,I will try of answer in some other way...
Bye

Amit Tyagi
Amit Pasricha
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Joined: Oct 07, 2000
Posts: 14

hi! amit congrat's
your background is same as mine, with little difference ,you have cleared i have to clear by 9th, my deadline(though the objective is same US).But dear please mail me some essentials points or rather questions before i enter the exam.You can mail me to hounor the santity of this forum.
#my address amit_pasricha@hotmail.com
Thanks in advance
Amit Tyagi
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Joined: Oct 18, 2000
Posts: 52
Hi Pasricha ,
I am sorry, today only.
I sent e-mail to so many person for this.
I can't write any more today, My fingers are paining. i am not a very good typist.
Please give me one or two days ..I will try to send you all..
Thanks
Amit
Amit Tyagi
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Joined: Oct 18, 2000
Posts: 52
Hi. Every body...

Before appearing for the exam ,, you all should test your knowledge here...
http://www.absolutejava.com/articles/test-your-java-knowledge.html
see this also.... http://www.absolutejava.com/articles/java-tidbits.html
Amit
parag bharambe
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Joined: Sep 01, 2000
Posts: 41
Congreats!!! Amit
I am plannig to appear the exam next week. So can you forward me your notes and good challenging question?
paragbharambe@yahoo.com
All the best for your future
Parag
[This message has been edited by parag bharambe (edited November 05, 2000).]
rajan raju
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Joined: Sep 22, 2000
Posts: 14
Hi Amit scjp
Congrats and thank you very much for all important information.
I will take the exam on 21st.
Will you please help me by sending some more tips with sample questions.
my mail id: rajanraju@hotmail.com
Good luck.
Thanks in advance
rajan
Kourosh Keshavarzi
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Joined: Oct 23, 2000
Posts: 66
Congrats Amit
good job
You must be feeling realy great right now.
I'm taking the exam in a week.
Can you email me some chalenging question.
Especialy threads.
thanks
Kourosh Keshavarzi
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Joined: Oct 23, 2000
Posts: 66
Thanks for suggesting
http://www.absolutejava.com/articles/test-your-java-knowledge.html

they were realy good questions. I at least learned 3 things out of going through them. I'll go through them again the day before the exam to remind myself of those tricks.
were can I go for some tricky thread questions.
sean cee
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Joined: Oct 24, 2000
Posts: 115
Good on you Amit!
I am thinking of taking exam in couple of weeks and I wasn't sure if I am ready or not.. but after reading your comments, I feel a bit better..
Can you send me your sample questions as well, please?
black_bunny@mailcity.com
Thanks.
p/s are you off to US to work as a Java developer now???

Sean <br />SCJP2, SCJP2p1.4, SCWCD
Shakeel Mohamed
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Joined: Sep 15, 2000
Posts: 14
hi amit,
congrats on clearing the exam!
could u pls mail me your notes at md_shakeel@hotmail.com.
all the best in ur US endeavours.
bye,
shakeel
Ram Jonnalagadda
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Joined: Nov 05, 2000
Posts: 6
hai Amit,
Congratulations man! U made it.This week i have to do this.If u help me too i will be very glad.My id is sita_ram@hotmail.com
Thanks
Harpal Singh
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Joined: Oct 10, 2000
Posts: 229
Hey Amit,
I allready congragulated you will be great if you could send it to my id at h3vj@usa.net
Thanks,
Harpal
prasanthi kothapa
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Joined: Oct 19, 2000
Posts: 30
Congrats Amit !!!
I m planning to give the exam next week but didn't know if they are asking any theory questions like encapsulation and data hiding stuff .It will be very glad if u to mail me personally at kprashu@lycos.com about some tips and example questions ASAP.
Thanks & Regards
awaitin u'r reply
prasanthi....
Aravind Ravi
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Joined: Oct 29, 2000
Posts: 34
Hi Amit,
Congrats on clearing the SCJP2 !It will be very useful if u can mail me at aravindravi12@yahoo.com about some tips and example questions ASAP.
Thanks
Aravind.
Hiba Hameed
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Joined: Oct 06, 2000
Posts: 30
Congrats Amit !!!
I m planning to give the exam next week pls send example questions theory questions like encapsulation and data hiding stuff .
Will you please help me by sending some more tips.my id is azee_in@yahoo.com.
thanx

Asha
Niraj Sheth
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Joined: Oct 26, 2000
Posts: 16
Hi Amit
Congrats and thanks for your information.
I am planning to take exam on 28th November. I have been preparing for exam for last 5 weeks. I have C++/VB background.
Would you please help me by sending some more tips with sample questions.
my email is Niraj.Sheth@alltel.com
Thanks in advance
Niraj

uday shet
Greenhorn

Joined: Oct 16, 2000
Posts: 18
Hi Tyagi,
Congrats on clearing the scjp. Wish you all the best in your future endeavours. I'm also appearing for the SCJP soon. It would be great if you could send your notes to:
to_uday@yahoo.com.
TIA,
uday.
Dev Prakash
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Joined: Oct 09, 2000
Posts: 28
Congrats!!!
Please send me at devprakash@hotmail.com
SHALINI PATEL
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Joined: Oct 31, 2000
Posts: 41
HI AMIT,
Thanks a bunch for those tips on threads, It really helped. I agree with yu that writing a piece of code make it much clear.
Amit, can yu email me on shalinijava@yahoo.com
Thanks again, and goodluck....... Yu seem to be a java guru now..
SHALINI
Amit Tyagi
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Joined: Oct 18, 2000
Posts: 52
Hi Guys,
Thank you . ..Thank you very much....
you all should practice threads for at least these ways plus some other combination
1>
class a1 extends Thread
{
public static void main(String args[])
{
a1 a =new a1();
Thread a11 = new Thread(a);
Thread a12 = new Thread(a);
a11.run();
a12.run();
}
int x,y;
synchronized int method1()
{
x =x+method2();
return x;
}
synchronized int method2()
{
y =y+method1();
return y;
}
public void run()
{
method1();
method2();
System.out.println(x+""+y);
}
}
what will be the result?
answer.......... stack overflow

2 >class a1 extends Thread
{
public static void main(String args[])
{
a1 a =new a1();
Thread a11 = new Thread(a);
Thread a12 = new Thread(a);
a11.run();
a12.run();
}
int x=1,y=1;
synchronized void method1()
{
x =x+1;
y=y+1;
}
public void run()
{
for(int i =0 ; i<5;i++)
{
method1();
System.out.println(x+""+y);
}
}
}
What will be the pattern of values of x & y
Can you predict it?
or 2 2...3 3.... 4 4 ...
or 2 3 ..3 4.... 4 5..

answer... Test and see........

bye everybody Thanks Shalini

Amit
Justin Moore
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Joined: Jun 27, 2000
Posts: 22
I passed the beta exam a while back with 79 and I was very underprepared for the IO questions as I didn't really expect them at that time. so u can get by without being too hot on them....although I would definitely try to learn it. It's not much fun sitting exam questions that you r not ready for!
Mapraputa Is
Leverager of our synergies
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Joined: Aug 26, 2000
Posts: 10065

Friends, have you ever read what is written at the top of this page?

Do not post questions from the actual certification exams. If you see a question from an actual exam, please e-mail the moderators privately to let us know.

IT IS ILLEGAL TO POST ACTUAL EXAM QUESTION,
IT IS UNETHICAL TO ASK FOR THEM
prasanthi kothapa
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Joined: Oct 19, 2000
Posts: 30
in the below code, how are we able to call the
run() method of the thread , without calling
start().
2 >class a1 extends Thread
{
public static void main(String args[])
{
a1 a =new a1();
Thread a11 = new Thread(a);
Thread a12 = new Thread(a);
a11.run();
a12.run();
}
int x=1,y=1;
synchronized void method1()
{
x =x+1;
y=y+1;
}
public void run()
{
for(int i =0 ; i<5;i++)
{
method1();
System.out.println(x+""+y);
}
}
}

please help..
prasanthi
Amit Tyagi
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Joined: Oct 18, 2000
Posts: 52
hi prasanthi,
Why don't you try this code and see your self...
Bye

Amit
Amit Tyagi
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Joined: Oct 18, 2000
Posts: 52
Hi Mapraputa,
Thanks for advise.
I am not giving the actual exam questions.
These were the questions which I practised before taking the exam. and I think after doing these type of qtn's person can understand the real exam's qtns well.
hope you have understood my point..
Amit
Swati Mehta
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Joined: Nov 06, 2000
Posts: 8
Congrates Amit !!! And Thanx for the vital information regarding the exam . You have done a great service to all of us who are aspiring for SCJP exam .It would be very kind of u , if you can provide the links - sources where we can get good questions on Threads .
If you want , you can mail me personally at skocheta@yahoo.com
THANX ONCE AGAIN !!!
SHALINI PATEL
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Joined: Oct 31, 2000
Posts: 41
HI AMIT,
thanks for those suggestions........
good luck
SHALINI
raja pandian
Greenhorn

Joined: Oct 18, 2000
Posts: 1
Congrats!!! for your exam, can you please send me any information that will help me to take exam on next week..
my email id : raja_ps@technologist.com
Thanks
Mapraputa Is
Leverager of our synergies
Sheriff

Joined: Aug 26, 2000
Posts: 10065
Amit, congratulations once again!
That's great that you help people. But I deleted two posts which asked smth like this: "just send me all that you can remember of the exam" - they obviously asked for real exam questions. As soon as smbd asks for REQ we have a chain reaction, "me too, me too!" To prevent disaster I put a warning in red inks.
 
Don't get me started about those stupid light bulbs.
 
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