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Drop-down list of forums in search

Debashish Chakrabarty
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Hi,
I hope I am not making a big feature request, but has anybody noticed that the drop-down list of forums (that appears when somebody clicks on the "search" link) is not ordered. It makes it very difficult to locate a forum like this. Can you make it alphabetical please?
Thanks,


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Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Debashish Chakrabarty:
Hi,
I hope I am not making a big feature request, but has anybody noticed that the drop-down list of forums (that appears when somebody clicks on the "search" link) is not ordered. It makes it very difficult to locate a forum like this. Can you make it alphabetical please?
Thanks,
It is ordered. They are in the same order as they appear on the main forum page.


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Jessica Sant
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
It is ordered. They are in the same order as they appear on the main forum page.

ooo I tend to differ Tom... I think its ordered by when each forum was created... at least that's my best guess -- here's the order that I see:
Java in General (intermediate)
Swing / JFC / AWT
JDBC
Distributed Java
Conventions / Training / User Groups
Jobs Offered
Servlets
Sockets and Internet Protocols
OO, Patterns, UML and Refactoring
JavaRanch
EJB and Other J2EE Technologies
IDE's and other tools
Linux / UNIX
Other Java Products and Servers
Performance
Sun Certified Web Component Developer
Cattle Drive (java college)
HTML and JavaScript
Applets
Programmer Certification Study
Developer Certification
Architect Certification
Threads and Synchronization
Moderators Only
XML and Related Technologies
Meaningless Drivel
Java in General (beginner)
Java in General (advanced)
Mock Exam Errata
Jobs Wanted
Jobs Discussion
I/O and Streams
Blatant Advertising
BEA/Weblogic
Java 2 Micro Edition
Process: UP, RUP, DRUP, XP, etc.
Sun Certification Results
Other Java APIs
IBM/Websphere
Java News
Book Reviews
JSP
Web Services
XML Certification
JNLP and Web Start
Orion
Oracle/OAS
Apache/Tomcat
Sun[tm] ONE Application Server
Java Frameworks
General Computing
Object Oriented Scripting
Product and Other Certifications
JBoss
Other Open Source Projects
Security
Resin Application Server
Ant
Testing


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Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Jessica Sant:

ooo I tend to differ Tom... I think its ordered by when each forum was created... at least that's my best guess -- here's the order that I see:
You are right, I was looking at the wrong dropdown. I never use that dropdown because I always go to the forum I want to search to do my search.
There is nothing in the control panel that deals with this so it needs to be investigated by someone with more access than I have.
Jim Yingst
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Got it, I think.


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Jessica Sant
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yup -- alphabetical now
Donald R. Cossitt
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Thanks Tom, that alphebetical thing really is a big difference
Now, I have this little problem with SortNames... :roll:


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Debashish Chakrabarty
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Thanks Javaranch
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very nice!
Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Donald R. Cossitt:
Thanks Tom, that alphebetical thing really is a big difference
Thank Jim. He did all the work!
Jim Yingst
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Well, it turns out this change creates more problems for us. When I recently tried to add a new forum, the UBB sofware became very badly confused. It turns out that the file which controls the order that the drop-down list is displayed in - is also used by other parts of the UBB software, and the order of these file entries is significant somehow, linked to a group's ID number, which... well... let's just say we can't change this stuff without rewriting a lot of other stuff, and it's much more complex than I want to deal with. So I've reverted the forum list back to its old format, and in order to use the search page, you've got to look through that icky unsorted list. Sorry guys - I tried...
R K Singh
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
I tried...

Thanks for trying
Layne Lund
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Sometimes I forget which forum a certain topic is in. I answer questions on the beginner and intermediate forums quite often. Is it difficult to allow a search on more than one forum at the same time? This is a feature that I would find very useful.


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Jessica Sant
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Layne-
we used to have a "search all forums" thing -- but we've got so many posts and so many users... that it kept crashing the server.
So, the moral of the story is that there's no "multiple search" option -- however if you click on your profile, you can see your last 50 posts, maybe that will help?
Jim Yingst
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Unfortunately, when you use the "all forums" option (if it were enabled), it basically does a single-forum search of forum 1, then of forum 2, then 3, etc. It's not in any way optimized to use an index of posts from all forums. So it's hideously inefficient. Even if we enabled it, you'd get a result much quicker by manually switching through searches of the those forums you actually spend time in. Of course, with "all forums" you'd have the option of starting a search and just coming back later to see the results. But the fact that you'd want to do this is an indication of how much work it puts the server through.
Debashish Chakrabarty
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Hey Ranchers,
Seems like we traveled full circle. The search drop-down is back to what it used to be..disorderly. Did all this discussion go to waste?
Regards,
Jim Yingst
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See my previous post beginning with "Well, it turns out this change creates more problems for us." I did sort the list, but it turns out this creates other bugs which are more serious than the original problem, so I changed the list back to its original unsorted state (which actually reflects order of creation, and thus forum number, which is used for a lot of other things). So I think this list will have to remain the way it is. Sorry.
 
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