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Study group for the SCJP exam - March-April 2001

Jane Griscti
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Hi guys ...
In trying to remove the broken mail form posted by Subramaniam
Venkatesan in your original thread I managed to delete the whole topic!
I managed to find a copy the original in my cache so this is a rebuild.
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Jane Griscti
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Jane Griscti
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Original Post by Dave Kay
T O P I C ��� R E V I E W
Hello folks !

Right now, six people (including myself) showed some interest in this study group :

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Manish : manishware@usa.net
Atin Sehgal : saggi_78@yahoo.com
Thiru : chakratn@yahoo.com
Ersin Eser : esersin@hotmail.com
Subramaniam Venkatesan : subs197@yahoo.com
Dave : foudental@netscape.net

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First of all, I think it would be nice to get to know each other better because we'll be spending the next month or so together. So here I go !
As you all know now, my name is Dave. I've been a programmer for 4 years. During these years, I've worked a lot with VB, Lotus Notes, Access, SQL Server, ACCPAC and Crystal Reports. I've been interested in Java for quite a while now but doesn't have any "serious" experience on the job market with this platform.
As for my personal life, I live in Montreal, Canada and my mother tongue is french (my english is not perfect, sorry !).
My background in Java : I've read "Java - How to program" by Harvey and Paul Deitel from cover to back (good book). I've also read parts of "Java 2 - The complete reference" by Naughton and Schildt. Finally, I've done a tutorial in Microsoft J++ (useless).
My study guide : "The complete Java 2 certification study guide" by Simon Roberts and al. Maybe I'll buy the Mughal book also but not right now.
What I expect from this study group : Share experiences, hints, interrogations, thoughts, etc.. We all have the same goal, we want to pass the certification by the end of March or in April. If we help each other, I think that it's gonna be easier for all of us.
My strategy : Read the Roberts book at least two times. Take as much mock exams as I can. Buy the JQ+ exam simulator and practice until I score over 85 %.
All messages concerning our study group should be posted under this topic.
That's about it for me... So what do you think ? Make your suggestions so we can get this thing started ! And don't forget, it would be nice getting to know each other so post a short message with the usual info : who you are, where do you come from, what do you expect from this study group, etc..
See ya wednesday !

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Regards,
Dave
foudental@netscape.net
"All your base are belong to us"

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Jane Griscti
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Original post by darshan rathi
hi dave and all,
nice to know about this group.seems intresting indeed.as for me ,well i look forward towards a productive group study at this venture. i m working on java related technologies specificlly jsp and ejb. i plan to take my scjp by mid april.well my totall experience with java is hardly 9 months.thats it.keep tuned.
Jane Griscti
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Original post by thiru
Hi Dave,
It is greate that you have created this discussion forum for us.
I hope we will use this to maximum extent and learn as much as possible from each one of us and get certified.
Let me first introduce myself to this group..
I am Thiru working as a software developer from last 3 years.I have worked mainly on Oracle,Forms,Reports,java and web application server.From Last 8 months working in Java as a system test Lead with development work here and there in JAVA RMI and Oracle.
I am working in USA from last 8 months,before working in INDIA.
Completed some initial courses in Web development using JAVA.
I am having basic knowledge in java and having eager to learn more.
I am studying R&H and parallely referring 'The Complete Reference for Java 2.0'.Planning to buy Mughals book once I complete one round of R&H.
I am planning to take up the exam by April First week.
Expecting other's reply to this forum.

--Thiru
Jane Griscti
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Original post by Vegad Arvind
Hi Dave,
It is greate.
hope we will use this to maximum extent and share our knowledge.
I am from India and wrt. now working as a Project Leader in Muscat Oman. I have worked mainly on Oracle,PB.
I am working in USA from last 8 months,before working in INDIA.
Completed some initial courses in Web development using JAVA.
I am having basic knowledge in java and want to learn more and more.
I am studying R&H , Exam Cram by Bill Brodgen.Planning to buy JQ + in comming days
I am planning to take up the exam by mid-end Feb.
once again thanks for such good thoughts and Expecting other's reply to this forum.

--Avi
avi123india@yahoo.com

Jane Griscti
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sunil choudhary
on Jour Monsieur Dave
( I know a little french ) and want to be a part of the study group... write you a individua mail also ..
For now I am doing RHE and Khalid Rammussem 's Book
apart from the countless Mocks
Sunil Choudhary
Jane Griscti
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Original post by ersin eser
Hi all,
This is ersin,
as far as experience goes i have almost none.Recently i have graduated from a technical school with a diploma in programming,i did ok during the course of my studies.I am an entry level programmer with a knowledge of cobol II,db2,oracle,c++,vb6,html,Javascript,asp,VbScript,xml.Recently i have audited an introductory level Java course at the same school i have graduated from,with all these languages i had a chance to create projetcs to write simple programs which dealt with various databases.Last week i have started to work for same school as an instructor assistant,i think i was lucky : until April 1st i am in the Java class as an assistant in which i am being exposed to second part of the Java course in which we deal with servlets awt swing.I would like to get into a position in which i can use Java :-) but of course in USA it is extremley hard to get an entry level position in Java field so I decided to give a shot and try this exam , if i pass i assume that might help me to get that position.Well i am a fast learner and this is my career change i had an MD degree,I really love coding and i believe this is the right field ,so far everything is OK for a beginner.
I read Simon's book once and started to read Bruce Eckel's book to get detailed info,I am planning to read Simons book once/twice more. I just took Marcus's exam 1, they recommend you to take it later but i couldn't help it,that's my way of learning,hands on and questions...of course it was a bummer got 66%,so i have 30% to go before the real one.
My expectation from the group : to push myself,basically when i hear you guys studying i believe that is going to push me to study harder.And exchenge few questions that we might get stuck...
good luck to all
ersin
Jane Griscti
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Original post by Dave Kay
Hello Sunil and Ersin !

Nice to hear from you !
Guys, don't wait for me to begin your exchanges on this study group : I finally won't be able to make it until next week (lots of work for my C++ classes at college, I'm sorry !). I'll catch you next monday.
Good luck to all of you and see you next week !
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Regards,
Dave
foudental@netscape.net
"All your base are belong to us"
Jane Griscti
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Original post by atin sehgal
Hi Dave,Manish,Thiru ,Ersin Eser ,Subramaniam Venkatesan and all the friends,

It seems I am the only one left who has not introduced himself yet.
Sorry for that.I am Atin Sehgal , Bachelor of Engineering Electronics & Telecommunication , currently working as Web Administrator in a leading Financial institution in India
My work revolves round web technology and I have recently started working on JSP.We are using Broadvision and oracle 8i as backend.
I am quite impressed with the way Java technology has come up and shaken the world.Though I am not an authority neither i have an experience to say that no other technology is better than Java, But my feeling is this is good.
When i turned up on the job scene abt 2 years ago(my experience is of 1-1/2 years in web),it was in demand and java is still in demand.
I am preparing JCP and wd luv to be a part of this group so that we can share our views, experience, suggestion , advice.
I am planning to devote atleats1 hour to my studies everyday and 3-4 hours on my off days.
I am reffering Khalid , Pat naughton and Simon Roberts and Heller.
All suggestions and help are welcome.
Let all of us togather try to achieve the main objective of our group i.e
To clear Sun Java Examination with good percentage.
Jane Griscti
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Original post by Subramaniam Venkatesan
hope you have all seen my mail..
lets start with the prep.
I have completed till garbabe-collection in khalid synchronising with b.boons and R&H
I hope to complete this exam with in this month.. but if the voucher prices increases, I may be pretty cautious
like to know how far others have prepared..
lets start achieving IT.
subbu
(subs197)

Jane Griscti
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Original post by Zahid, Butt
Hi ALL
Could you Please add me to your study group ???
my email address is zahid_butt321@hotmail.com.
Thnaks
Jane Griscti
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Original post by durga krishna
Hi All,
I am also interested in joining ur study group...
My email id is bhuvana44@usa.net
regards
Durga
Jane Griscti
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Original post by Subramaniam Venkatesan
<FORM NAME=SGMF ACTION="http://subs197.virtualave.net/scjp.cgi" METHOD=POST><CENTER>
<CENTER> Mail To </CENTER> <SELECT WIDTH="50" HEIGHT="28" name="gemailto"><OPTION value="Study Group Members" selected>Study Group Members</OPTION><OPTION value="as">Attin Sehgal</OPTION><OPTION value="dr">Darshan Rathi</OPTION><OPTION value="dk" >Dave Kay</OPTION><OPTION value="ee">Ersin Eser</OPTION><OPTION value="mw">Manish Ware</OPTION><OPTION value="vs"> V.Subbu</OPTION><OPTION value="sw">Sunil Chowdary</OPTION><OPTION value="tc">Thiru Chaktra</OPTION><OPTION value="va">Vegad Arvind </OPTION></SELECT>
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<CENTER> Password </CENTER><INPUT WIDTH="25" HEIGHT="28" name=passw type=password size=25>
<CENTER> Subject </CENTER><INPUT WIDTH="30" HEIGHT=26 NAME=sub size=45>
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<CENTER> <INPUT TYPE=SUBMIT NAME=SUBMIT VALUE="SEND EMAIL"><INPUT TYPE=RESET VALUE="CLEAR"> </CENTER>
</center></FORM>

Jane Griscti
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Original post by Jaya Reddy
Hi all,
Nice to know about this group.I plan to give my certification
atleast by mid of April.Please consider me into this group.
I am still a beginner.I am studing Java Complete Reference
and I have Khalid Mughal for Exam Cram.
Suggest me how to begin the serious study.
Jaya
Jane Griscti
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Original post by venkatesan r
hello
I should like to be part of the group and i plan to take the test by end april.
I do not have any prior programming experience though. I am presently in Zagreb, Croatia working for Govt of India.
I am working of RHE and KH
Could I be the member.,
my email address would be venkatesan99@usa.net
regards to all
venkat
Jane Griscti
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Original post by Subramaniam Venkatesan
Ofcourse you can all be members here, what we are going to do is discuss all our doubts what we have and prepare ourselves well sothat we can take the exam within a month. so if you think you are going to take the exam in this time you can join in. Ofcourse we plan to exchange any notes or tips, whatever we know, and we can only know it by going through the other messages, maha anna's site (damn good) and through all the other forums.

ok. I though of making an attempt to improve our contacts with the mail. yes the mail works. you can use html tags too. but this is just for letting the members know about whats going on here sothat even if you dont visit this page, you will knowing about things. anyway, I am not able to edit my previos post. I think there a problem with the table and form that i have used. If anyone can, they can delete this post on "posted March 01, 2001 04:49 PM "
okay if Iam able to edit it, I will add the new members too. If iam not able to do it, still the new members can receive the mail if you are mailing it to the "study group members". I will post all the tutorials I have collected sofar on the net.
lets start with our preparation. you can post your messages in this forum and then mail it to all the "study group members" sothat others will know about it. I have put a password sothat you may not receiving any spam-mails and please use it to clear your doubts only as I have a count on the number of mails.
thank you,
subbu
Jane Griscti
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Original post by sunil choudhary
Hi
Subramanyam Great service � I am impressed ..
But what about the password field � It does not accepts the password ..
Please intimate about it at
sunil.choudhary@usa.net
Thanks for a wonderful program .. and including "my name" in it
Sunil
Jane Griscti
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Original post by poorna chaturvedi
Hi All(Atin,Dave,Manish,Thiru ,Ersin Eser ,Subramaniam Venkatesan),
I wd like to join your group.
well first of all i will give you my introduction
I am Poorna Chaturvedi, Bachelor of Arts<Maths(hons)> from Maitreyi , currently working as Web Developer in Noida.
My work revolves round web Development and I am currently working in ASP and PHP.We are using My-Sql as backend.
I am a beginner to this field and quite impressed too with its merits.
Well i have done GNIIT and my experience is around 2 yrs in this industry but i have worked only in ASP and PHP no experience in JAVA, so new to it.
I am preparing JCP and wd luv to be a part of this group so that we can share our views, experience, suggestion , advice.
I am planning to devote atleats1 hour to my studies everyday and 3-4 hours on my off days.
All suggestions and help are welcome.
Let all of us togather try to achieve the main objective of our group i.e
To clear Sun Java Examination with good percentage.
Thanks a lot
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Subramaniam Venkatesan
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Hi,
Thankyou Jane ,
glad you helped us
subbu
Viral Thakkar
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Great Work...
I m also interested in joining the group.
My name is Viral Thakkar.
Presently I am at Hyderabad India, working on Java related technologies.
Please include my name in group.
My email address is viralnt@usa.net
My experince is about 21 months.
I am planning to give JCP exam before April mid.
ViraL..
Manju Jain
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Joined: Feb 08, 2001
Posts: 168
Hi guys
I want to be the latest entrant to your group.
You can call me Jytsika( my preferred name )
I've worked in c/c++ , foxpro , html, D2k and sql etc.
My email add is wondersense@yahoo.com
I've a fair knowledge on java basics.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Thanks
Bye
Manju Jain
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Hi guys
I want to be the latest entrant to your group.
You can call me Jytsika( my preferred name )
I've worked in c/c++ , foxpro , html, D2k and sql etc.
My email add is wondersense@yahoo.com
I've a fair knowledge on java basics.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Thanks
Bye
Pasupathi J
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Joined: Feb 21, 2001
Posts: 4
Hi All,
I would like to join the study group. Let me introduce myself. I am Paupathi J, working in various distributed computing technologies.I am planning to take the test in the mid of April.My email id is jpasupathi@yahoo.com.
Thanx in advance,
Pasupathi J

[This message has been edited by Pasupathi J (edited March 03, 2001).]
savita jadhav
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Joined: Mar 05, 2001
Posts: 62
hi
i am intrested in joining ur group. i have complted c,c++,html,oracle,and java i have keen intrest in java and appearing for the certification by april end
i will be happy to b apart of ur group.my mail id is sav_j@rediffmail.com
i have started studing mugal and barry boone's books .please tell me which topics r important
savita
thiru chakravarthi
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Joined: Feb 28, 2001
Posts: 7
Hi All,
It is greate that lot of people are showing interest in joining this group.
How far u guys have completed? What is ur plans/strategies in completing the syllabus and taking mock exams..
I feel it is good to share their study plans so that if any one is going out of track or not planned properly,can correct him/her self and take the exam on planned date.
I am planning to give the exam by First week of April.planning to study 1-1.5 hr daily(week days) and around 3-4 hrs week ends.
I have planned to study R&H for 3 weeks (Like completing 3-4 chapters on weekly basis) and repeating/revising the last weeks study in the subsequent weeks.It might be hard to revise and feel good as we won't forget what we have studied in the last week and can remember more and will be useful at the end.
After completing one round of R&H, want to revise the entire book on the 4th week.Paraley,if needed I will be referring some other books like Mughals/Compelte reference for more info.In the 5ht week planning to take mock exams and parallely revising once again the entire R&H book.This might help me.Then in the 6ht week,planning to give the exam.
It is highly appreciable if some one gives their plans of study and taking mock exams..
Thanks,
Thiru
sachin babu21
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 06, 2001
Posts: 1
hi,
i'm a new user to this forum.i'm planning to take SCJP by late april.i'm a beginner on java.can i join this group?
my id is sachinbabu@n2mail.com
atin sehgal
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Joined: Nov 12, 2000
Posts: 32
Hi all,
Whats the progress guys.
Hey my name is being spelt wrong in the Drop Down box .Itshd Atin Sehgal.
Alsdo the thing is not working too.
regards
Albert Gray
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Joined: Mar 06, 2001
Posts: 43
Pls join me now with you guys for the jcsp.
Thanks.
Albert
deepak kumar
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 01, 2001
Posts: 2
hi friends
i am also going to plane SCJP in mid of april could u please add me This study group , My email id is deep_all@yahoo.com

Thnx
James Roddy
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 16, 2001
Posts: 25
Hi All(Atin,Dave,Manish,Thiru ,Ersin Eser ,Subramaniam Venkatesan),
I am very interested in ur GROUP.
Pls..let me join.
My mail address is:
<mail>ratban@rediffmail.com</mail>
tvs sundaram
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Joined: Jan 28, 2001
Posts: 153
Hai friends
i am also planning for SCJP in mid of April. I will be thankful if could u please add me to this study group. My email id is srishanmuga@hotmail.com
Thank you in advance.



[This message has been edited by tvs sundaram (edited March 08, 2001).]
JT Toro
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 08, 2001
Posts: 4
Hello everyone,
Please add my name to the study group. Have 6+ years programming but in various areas:- some database experience (Sybase, SQL Server), PowerBuilder, 2 years C++, and < 1 year Java. Thought about doing the exam for a while now but haven't done any serious study so hope by joining this group I'll actually do it instead of just thinking about it! My email address is: jtoro_ca@yahoo.com
joseph jacob
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Joined: Jan 14, 2001
Posts: 6
i like to join study group well my email is joymnmledu@yahoo.com
Hari Gangadharan
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Joined: Mar 08, 2001
Posts: 73
Hi everyone --
I am planning to give a certification exam in May-June. Can you also include me in this? I am very much interested. My email address is hari_g_nospam@hotmail.com
(Please remove _nospam when sending mail)
I am currently an application system designer for Unix batch environment. Has got strong Perl/Unix/Korn Shell/CGI skills, strong Database and SQL knowledge and was a mainframe programmer couple of years earlier.
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Hari Gangadharan
Out of the turbulance a soft voice spoke to me ...
Son smile and be happy things could be worse...
I smiled and I was happy and things became worse!
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tvs sundaram
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Joined: Jan 28, 2001
Posts: 153
Dear Subramaniam Venkatesan,
I am quite eager to start the preparations. I tried the e-mail but it is asking for password . can u pls confirm that u have included me also in the study group. If so, can u pls mail me the password and other formalities to operate the mail facility. I do have some links to share with u all. Request immediate reply.
atin sehgal
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Joined: Nov 12, 2000
Posts: 32
Hi all,
It seems this online study group is not working.
I havenot got any replies nor have I recvd any mails.
I am coming up with a olution.
those of u who r intrested in forming a group, pls do mail me.
at :
saggi_78@yahoo.com
I will send u a all a confirmatory mailk as soonas I get any mail from yr side.
Happy SCJP Certification hunting
regards
p scarci
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 08, 2001
Posts: 1
Hi Guys,
I have a target date of Apr'01 to take my SCJP. Wd like to join ur group.
my name is Pady and I have been reading up on the Java technology for quite sometime. I decided to finally take the exam.
My background is mainly Client-server development with a little distributed computing too
My email is pscarci@usa.net
Hope to hear from u
Pady
denish mehta
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Joined: Dec 21, 2000
Posts: 135
HI
I AM DENISH MEHTA.CAN I ALSO JOIN THIS STUDY GROUP??
IT'S SOUND NICE
REGARDS
Priya Chetlur
Greenhorn

Joined: Feb 20, 2001
Posts: 20
Hi All
I am planning to take SCJP by mid of april. This study group seems to be a great idea. It would be great if u could please add me in your group. My mail id is priyachetlur@yahoo.com
Thanks in advance
Steve Dotson
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 03, 2001
Posts: 5
Hi,
I am interested in the SCJP group. I have been studying for the certification since last summer. I started out with very little experience in programming, but I am getting better every week. My email is: neuroknot@lycos.com
Thanks,
Steve
 
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