java books for Games

Can anyone suggest good books for writing java games.
Not for mobile devices but for regular desktops.

Thanks

The Game Development forum would probably be a better place to post.

That is if you want a meaningful answer

Kris is right, I am going to move this to the Game Development forum.

Mark

I just did a search at Amazon for "java game", and the first seven or eight books returned matched what you're seeking. There was a one for mobile games specifically, but the others seemed to be targeted at full-blown desktop games.

I'll let you STW rather than transcribe a list of titles here.

I find the user reviews at Amazon to be a pretty good first cut at narrowing down my selection, and sometimes I just feel lucky and order one of the remaining two or three without further research.

I already looked at amazon. Sorry, I should have been more clear. I guess I was hoping for recommendations from those who had tried some of these books.
I was thinking of getting
Developing Games in Java by David Brackeen
Does anyone have any suggestions for a better book, or is this the one they would recommend?

I have Brakeen's book and think it's excellent. I highly recommend it.

By chapter 5 you've written a reasonable side scroller, by the end of the book he's gone through implementing your own 3D engine. The only drawback I see is that it does not cover any of the OpenGL frameworks. Although it gives you a good enough understanding of the way 3D works that it shouldn't be to difficult to pick them up.

By the way, it was not my intention to come across so snide. I assumed you hadn't checked Amazon (first mistake) and that there wouldn't be more than 1 or 2, if any (second mistake). So when I found so many I was quite shocked.

That little brain fry must have tipped me over the edge, and I made a third assumption that if you had found so many books you clearly wouldn't need to ask for recommendations (third and most illogical mistake). Thus I concluded that my first assumption was correct, which of course it wasn't.

Hey, at least give me credit for removing the F from STW.