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Elections at JavaRanch ?

Amit Agrawal
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Joined: Aug 23, 2001
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just a passing thought which came when i saw the topic Elections in MD.
What about Polls at JavaRanch? If not for electing/changing Sheriffs/Moderators, may be just to find out who is the most admired amongst all moderators? who is seen as a tough one and who is considered cool!! just for fun, I would say.
Yeah we can do that even with a thread in MD but if the idea seems ok to fellow ranch members, we can do better with a simple form containing few multiple choices, where only members (say elder than 1 month so that nobody can skew results by creating fake members) can vote.
just a thought...
HS Thomas
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Joined: May 15, 2002
Posts: 3404
Elections at the JavaRanch ? Oh! You mean an all out shoot-out.
Now wait just a dang ding dong minute, you nosy old sway backed busybody. I've a good mind to.....I got me a good mind to march you two down to the jail right now.
...
You can't slug a sober customer in a saloon. It's against the code of the west.The code of the west. Article 53, section 7, part B. "It is unlawful to do harm to a sober person in a drinking establishment."....It's okay to jump on a drunk, however.
One, you are disturbing the peace by singing a song in the daytime. Article 3, section 5, part C. Two, you can't preach inside the city limits without a preaching license. Article 12, section 6, part D. You got a preachin' license?
You are in a drinking establishment and you are not drinking. That's against section 56 of article 4, part A.
Now, on your way, Devious! And don't let the door hit you where the sun don't shine on your way out!

Just joking!
I hope the Spoken Soul came through. Americans have soul!
Election seems a cool idea. But you have to hang around for centuries for something real good to come out of it.
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Anonymous
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i will vote for jim.
Anonymous
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Originally posted by Amit Agrawal:
just a passing thought which came when i saw the topic Elections in MD.
What about Polls at JavaRanch? ......
just a thought...

GOOD IDEA ...
CAN I PARTICIPATE ?!!!
Mark Spritzler
ranger
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Joined: Feb 05, 2001
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Originally posted by <hello>:
i will vote for jim.

Um, Jim, in this election you can't vote for yerself.
Mark


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Mark Spritzler
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Amit, actually we are all here to help everyone(even bartenders need help, boy I know I do.), that is our number one priority.
We aren't here for the popularity contest. And I wouldn't want to win any popularity contest at the expense of any of our other bartenders/sheriffs, because they are all the best you will ever find at any website. So you can vote for JavaRanch in the annual Software Development reader's awards, but leave me out of a bartender/sheriff contest.
Mark
Donald R. Cossitt
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Joined: Jan 31, 2003
Posts: 401
I vote for Map


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Ernest Friedman-Hill
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but leave me out of a bartender/sheriff contest.

Me too. Please leave me alone with my delusions of grandeur
[ October 13, 2003: Message edited by: Ernest Friedman-Hill ]

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HS Thomas
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Originally posted by Mark Spritzler:
but leave me out of a bartender/sheriff contest.
Mark

Pity! My first bartender would have got a vote from me!
regards
[ October 13, 2003: Message edited by: HS Thomas ]
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Originally posted by Donald R. Cossitt:
I vote for Map

Oops. I should not have posted that. Now everybody knows my other account.
(Just kidding )
Seriously, something inside me cries deeply against this voting. Some of us are easily likable, some are more difficult. Some have more "charisma", some less. All this has nothing to do (if to beatify the facts) with how much work bartenders/sheriffs invest to this place. Hard working people tend to be less noticed, no big surprise here. All this, though, has nothing to do with Jim to whom my vote goes (couldn't resist ) but do we really need this voting?
[ October 14, 2003: Message edited by: Mapraputa Is ]

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Amit Agrawal
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Yeah, there are many moderators [sheriffs included], who put in very hard work but don't get noticed by all the audience. But I hope they do get noticed by thier counterparts in other forums of java ranch. We can easily solve this problem introducing a rational system that greenhorn's vote would value of say 1 point. Ranchhands will have 2 points, bartenders will have 10 points and sheriffs will have 25 points (or any other proportion).
leave it, this is just to tell devising a rational system is possible if we consider all aspects so i beleive that we can nullify this problem.
coming to the main point, why to get into anything like it? Yes, I agree that none of you is actually participating for any popularity here. Thats quite obevious and your dedication is quite visible too. But Whats the harm in knowing how many of us consider you as the most dedicated one and whom does the majority chooses as the most admired one [although i doubt it would be somebody other than Jim].
Dave Vick
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Joined: May 10, 2001
Posts: 3244
Like MArk, Ernest, and Map (and almost all of the other bartenders and sherrifs, I'm sure) I'm against voting - we're not here to be popular or to be better than anyone else, we're just here to help. Also, I know for myself, that explaining something to someone else usually helps me to understand a subject better myself - so I'm not entirely altuistic here
In the interest of making everyone happy though, we can implement a voting system, the rules would be:
1. Everyone gets one vote
2. Everyone can only vote for their selves
3. Anyone not voting, will automatically be awarded one vote


Dave
Pradeep bhatt
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Posts: 8919

So Bartenders are afraid of contesting.


Groovy
Thomas Paul
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I think an election will be fun. And I'll volunteer to write the software to tabulate the votes.


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Pradeep bhatt
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What about duplicate ID's? How are you going to take care of it.
I may create several and vote for the same guy.
Pradeep bhatt
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I may create several and vote for the same guy.

I wont do that though.
Varun Khanna
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Joined: May 30, 2002
Posts: 1400
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
I think an election will be fun. And I'll volunteer to write the software to tabulate the votes.

Thomas, believe me this post is going to fetch you 10 to 15 extra votes (if not more), in case election happens


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paul wheaton
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Posts: 20692
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Just make sure the evil dictator doesn't find out you're plotting against him. Of course, the dumb bastard is so confused, he'll probably never notice.
Ya know, "dictator" is a funny word. It sounds like a phalic potato.
(now, where did I put that guillotine ...)


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Pauline McNamara
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Joined: Jan 19, 2001
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Originally posted by Paul Wheaton:
Ya know, "dictator" is a funny word. It sounds like a phalic potato.

LOL!
If I used a signature this would be quoted in it.
[ October 14, 2003: Message edited by: Pauline McNamara ]
Ilja Preuss
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Joined: Jul 11, 2001
Posts: 14112
Originally posted by Amit Agrawal:
coming to the main point, why to get into anything like it? Yes, I agree that none of you is actually participating for any popularity here. Thats quite obevious and your dedication is quite visible too. But Whats the harm in knowing how many of us consider you as the most dedicated one and whom does the majority chooses as the most admired one [although i doubt it would be somebody other than Jim].

Why should we do it if we don't care about the result?
I think the problem is that we all *will* care. You can't help but notice if you don't get many votes, and I think it will be demotivating, regardless of how often we try to tell ourselves that it doesn't matter.


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Jim Yingst
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although i doubt it would be somebody other than Jim
Oh I think that's very possible, especially since I would probably be campaigning to get myself named Meanest Bartender, just for fun.
Seriously, I'm not really interested in having a vote for this sort of thing, and agree that it has the potential for hurt feelings more than anything constructive. Plus it would be work to set up a voting system that was remotely fair, and I just don't seem much point. Sorry...


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Jason Menard
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Joined: Nov 09, 2000
Posts: 6450
I also don't see the point in holding a popularity contest when the people being judged aren't doing this for popularity's sake.
Thomas Paul
mister krabs
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Posts: 13974
Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
Plus it would be work to set up a voting system that was remotely fair, and I just don't seem much point. Sorry...
Since the whole thing would be silly anyway, why bother making it fair?
Paul Stevens
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Joined: May 17, 2001
Posts: 2823
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Since the whole thing would be silly anyway, why bother making it fair?

That's why you "volunteered" to write the code.
Ernest Friedman-Hill
author and iconoclast
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I actually held a vote out in another forum while you guys were in here arguing about it.
Results:
PersonalityVotes
Me500,000
Jim Yingst6 (500,000 for "meanest" though)
Thomas Paul1,196 (higher in U.K.)
Map7 + 1 "nay" from Joe Pluta
Paul Wheaton1 (he's #1)

Several counties in Florida haven't been tallied yet -- there are rumors of some irregularities.
[ October 14, 2003: Message edited by: Ernest Friedman-Hill ]
HS Thomas
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As the campaign rolls I'd vote for you, Illja.
regards
Mark Spritzler
ranger
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Posts: 17259
    
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especially since I would probably be campaigning to get myself named Meanest Bartender, just for fun.

Now that is something I would vote for.
Right after I vote again for Michael Ernest in his special poll. Man, writing his name 500,000 times is very tiring.
Mark
Pradeep bhatt
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Posts: 8919

I will vote for Mark.
Ilja Preuss
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Posts: 14112
Originally posted by HS Thomas:
As the campaign rolls I'd vote for you, Illja.

Who's that Illja you are speaking of? <paranoicly looking around>
[ October 15, 2003: Message edited by: Ilja Preuss ]
Ashik Uzzaman
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Posts: 2370

My vote goes for Ajith.


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Mapraputa Is
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Congratulations on your 3000 post, Ilja !!!
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Thomas Paul
mister krabs
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Originally posted by Ilja Preuss:
Who's that Illja you are speaking of? <paranoicly looking around>
Wasn't he that guy in The Man From U.N.C.L.E?
Ilja Preuss
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Wasn't he that guy in The Man From U.N.C.L.E?

I didn't know about that, it seems as if he was written Illya... :roll:
The top google hit for "illja" is http://www.iri.uni-hannover.de/projekte_aktuell/illja/illja.php - ROFL
(The next hit suggsts that it stands for "Intelligente Lehr- und Lernr�ume f�r die juristische Ausbildung, german for "intelligent teaching- and learning rooms for legal education" - boring, isn't it?)
Ilja Preuss
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
Congratulations on your 3000 post, Ilja !!!
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"If I used a signature this would be quoted in it" -- Pauline McNamara

Thanks! And nice hijack...
Mapraputa Is
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I didn't know about that, it seems as if he was written Illya... :roll:

"ya" is an English way to transliterate what would be "ja" in German and French. See for example "TRANSLITERATION TRANSMISSION".
[ October 15, 2003: Message edited by: Mapraputa Is ]
Michael Ernest
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Originally posted by Mark Spritzler:

Right after I vote again for Michael Ernest in his special poll. Man, writing his name 500,000 times is very tiring.

Finally, a little respect around here for what I do best!


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